Idk if anyone had a similar problem before, but I live in EU by the countryside, at first there were only a few but now it happens more and more often to see drones passing over my house, I am sure they are civilian drones because law enforcement has no reason to use them since the area is quiet (and honestly I doubt they would be able to do so), however it bothers me enough to know that there are people who get over the fence and enter my property going to look at what they want, does anyone have any advice on what to do?

Get yourself a little beehive OP.

Every time you see a drone, report it for killing your bees, sit back and watch the EU busybodies go fuckin mental about it

The cunt who’s doing it will be in The Hague within a week 😂

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This works if they fly low enough

Police drones. Surveillance “for your protection”

Fuck them!

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You can also use an anti-drone gun

That photo is real but that caption isn’t.

That was taken in Australia with one of our better beers front and centre

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That guy deserves an award

I never understood anti drug drones. You’d think criminals would just go inside or get a pavilion

Portsmouth Ohio, fat redneck throwing a bottle of shit Australian beer and the police not executing a no knock warrant and murdering him for his crimes?

I call bullshit.

He’s white, it’s okay.

Didn’t know they drank great northern piss in Ohio.

They don’t. They’re a QLD couple that got in trouble for being absolute legends and knocking down their neighbour’s drone.

That some dystopian shit!

commercial drones must have by law a remote ID, think of it like a unique number for each drone, so you might want to try using some phone apps like DroneTag to get that ID and then report it to the authorities. They will have a record of who that drone belongs to.

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Follow the drone until it lands

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What country?

there’s a software package floating around to hijack drones and remote control them yourself. it might be time to test the drone’s security capabilities

Are you legally allowed to own a shotgun?

Don’t shoot down drones. In the US it counts as shooting down an aircraft and you’ll have the FAA knocking at your door

OP stated this was in europe. Out of the FAA’s jurisdiction. The EASA may have similar rules though

I’d be very surprised if that were true for ones not registered with the FAA.

Just looked it up for Germany: over residential areas you need either “an explicit permission of the owner”, or “it is very light (<250g) and has no ability to record video, audio or radio” or “it is more then 100m above ground, not in the night and some other fingerprint” [1].

In all EU you actually need a registration on your some clearly visible [2].

So, of they are below 100m or in the night, just call the authorities. If you live a bit outside it might just not clear from above that it’s private property.

[1] https://dipul.de/homepage/en/information/geographical-zones/legal-basis/#accordion-1-6 [2] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/travelling-drones

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How is it trespassing? How far up do you “own” ? 5m , 200m, 1000km?

On the other hand, get a another drone and play chasey wott theirs, maybe and some talons to yours and swoop, eagle style ?

Trespass can mean merely imposing on the rights of another.

So if one is entitled to privacy on their property, then flying a drone over it is trespass.

E.g. in germany it is not allowed to fly over private property with a drone (equipped with a camera), no matter the height. You have to stay above offical streets. And maximum flight hight is 120 m, if I remember correctly.

I guess it’s EU law, so it should be simmilar in other EU countries.

Next CIA satellite over my house, I will legally shoot down with mu pulse laser !

In Germany you are only allowed to shoot your pulse laser with 24 giga-watt max. I guess it’s an EU law, so should be the same for all of europe.

Here is a great defcon talk that might give you some ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CzURm7OpAA

Apparently, old-fashioned spark radios can disrupt comms for consumer drones. There are kits for people who are interested in learning about early radio tech.

I’ve not verified this myself.

causing RF interference on purpose is definitely illegal wherever this person lives

What about mistakingly

Which means finding a personal purpose for using the spark radio, that way it remains a side-effect.

Might me time for some electrical experiments.

That only works so many times before the authorities can see through the ruse unfortunately.

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Not on the civilian spectrum, surely?

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OP is in the EU. I don’t think anything the FCC says has any relevance to their situation.

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NAL, but this is about ‘authorized radio communications’, which to me seems like the GSM/LTE spectrum and GPS and similar, not the civilian one, please correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not sure about the scope of the ‘authorized comms’ term.

Also, OP is in the EU, so laws may differ significantly here.

  • Step 1. Get the loudest, most assertive dog possible (as long as it never bites people).
  • Step 2. Install a doggie-door.
  • Step 3. Train it to wreck drones that land inside the fence perimeter.

I think jamming the radio would be much easier and faster

Also super illegal and easy to get caught for.

Did you also say that to folks who worked on the underground railroad?

Do what’s right, not what’s legal.

Are you really comparing someone flying a drone over your property to slavery?

“They’re the same picture”

If OP only turns it on when there is a drone above their house, how would it be easy to get caught?

that’s how you use it, correct.

You can’t really get a jammer to disable only a drone. The jamming will affect an area all around, likely affecting the neighbors’ wifi, bluetooth connections, and other radio signals like cellphones, for example.

If that happens, it would get noticed, reported, and investigated very quickly.

“Hey! Why does my drone keep malfunctioning every time I fly it over this one house in particular?”

More like, “shit, I totally lost contact with my drone when I flew it over this home, and i never saw it again. Never gonna do that again”

You drink great northern beers in Ohio? I mean they are decent beers, but didn’t think they’d made it across the Pacific

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Do you own a shotgun? Just shoot it out of the sky.

Just kiding that’s a terrible idea

Clearly. Use a boomerang instead.

Honestly that might work if you are going the destructive route

Drone pilot from Germany here, they have no place hovering over your property, more strictly even they’re not allowed to fly in any way that allows them to view your garden from above. You can shoot down the drone and it’s their problem note that this is in Germany not the US (which surprised me tbh).

However, that said, could be that it’s the same pilot again and again, even if it’s different birds. Normally they are very cooperative, just ask them to stop and they’ll apologize for any inconvenience caused.

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Jesus F Christ, what???/some random bullets.flying through the air ? Some kid a few blocks over shot whikie playing in the yard, thats ok, was shooting at some asshats drone but missed?

Juat moon the drone and be done with it, like a sane person

Birdshot exists

Was done with an air rifle, making it a little bit better, but it still very much surprised me due to the very same reasons…

FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort no matter the type or who is flying it. And also, the Federal Aviation Administration is the only authority in the US when it comes to airspace, and as long as you have authorization from the FAA or are in uncontrolled space, you can fly over anyone’s property. However, that doesn’t give you the right to voyeurism or harassment. If you are intentionally spying on things that are normally considered private (peeking in a window, for instance) or repeatedly or specifically bugging a specific individual or family, then you can still be charged with those crimes. Also, unless you have a specific waiver that’s rather hard to get, you have to be within line of sight of your drone. If the drone pilot is not following the rules, they can be hit with hefty fines. Even though drones can be bought easily, there’s still strict rules that the FAA has for both recreational and professional flying, and anyone operating a drone outside those can and should be reported.

Honestly they should get a good video of the drone and report it. If the police do nothing sent it to the community

FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort

That’s even wilder to me, since you have several states where you are allowed to shoot anyone trespassing on your property, but a drone, who can record and video and infringe on your privacy is illegal?!

That’s like prime capitalism. Human lives are worthless, but don’t damage my property. What?

It’s because it counts as an aircraft. Getting licenced to use your drone for anything more than “wooo, flyin mah drone” covers a lot of the same stuff a private pilot would know like reading the maps, airport landing procedure, and airspace. They treat it like an actual airplane. And you can’t just start blasting at airplanes because they flew over your house. If it’s doing more than just flying over it has to be addressed legally.

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Yeah, that’s fair. I think the main reasoning is that shooting something out of the air can cause it to crash on people or light stuff on fire. I also don’t like the “stand your ground” and “castle doctrine” laws, so I think both shooting people and shooting drones should be illegal.

It’s all about property rights here. You can always just make more people, right?

Since op didn’t mention seeing a pilot, I’d suspect that the drones are flown out of sight. So asking them to stop can be difficult. Of course asking nicely, by downing a drone, might get the message across.

I wonder if I could shoot down drones here in Denmark as well.

Flying out of sight only underlines the illegality of the act. In Germany you need to keep relatively near to your drone and technically need to be able to fly by sight only (so can’t stand in a building/car and then not see your drone).

Same in DK, and my comment was meant to underline that. If you see a drone and no operator is around, then something is definitely wrong.

I mean, years ago, I had a DJI Phantom 2 Vision+ drift away, on account of my own inexperience and stupidity. This was right when it had just come out, and way before drone licenses and laws forbidding drone flights in populated areas. So no laws were broken; and it was done with no malicious intent… But these days?

Not even the DK police, who have some very well-trained drone operators, can fly their drones out of sight.

Seeing a drone with no operator once? Something might have gone wrong, let’s not judge too harshly, but seeing a drone with no operator regularly? On your property? If you have a hunting permit, a shotgun, and a clear shot, then it might be a good time to practice your anti air skills.

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