(timestamp-link) iPad Pro M4 Hands on - Why I just bought it.
Review from a top YT reviewer, Mrwhosetheboss. How do you guys feel about it?

Rustmilian
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If it’s a native app then it’s fine, else if it’s just a chromium skin then that bullshit can fuck off.

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No thanks, I would rather not have to use Waydroid and deal with Google’s services because of course you didn’t make the app available on your website or on F-Droid.

haui
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There is literally no difference between web and app. What makes a difference is if proprietary data hogs made them or open source devs.

Lemongrab
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Garbage take. Having apps as PWAs is better for security, privacy, and doesn’t need to be clunky. Websites are clunky when they import massive remote JS libraries instead of just relying more on CSS. No website I’ve every visited has had a valid reason to be slow, I mean we can literally use a webpage to control a remote VM in real time. Apps get to declare most of their permissions and will often require these unnecessary permissions to use them at all.

The Doctor
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Yeah, nah.

Yeah, no. I’d rather use a clunky website in a browser then installing dozens of specific apps.

HubertManne
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website.

I wonder why pwas never became more popular. You can offer your service for everyone, without the need to install anything, while letting people install it as an app, if they want.

HubertManne
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agree here. Im guessing because of the massive control apps give the places. I can no script my browser.

Voyager for Lemmy started as a progressive web app. But due to operating system limitations people had the desire to make it an actual app app.

That kind of app is understandable because we tend to use it too often, but when it comes to apps like online shops, delivery services, government services, and other things we tend to use less often, I think it’s better to avoid filling my phone with invasive and bloated apps.

In my experience, most “apps” are just the website with some features and zoom disabled, wrapped in electron.

So I prefer the browser version, where I have all my privacy enhancing plugins.

Nah, I’m good. I’m fine with services being limited to what information they can convince my browser to give them, rather than what they can convince my phone to give them. Or try and convince me to give them permission to access.

I think that’s actually the reason “sleek apps” became so common. Since browsers have all that sandboxing and privacy settings now.

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