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So… you need a Mac? Anyways…
It’s fine, most people still won’t sideload apps, and I am sure there will be a legal disclaimer before starting the process, so I don’t see the problem for Apple.
I am an iPhone user, and I am quite happy to not bother with sideloading, but I fully agree that there should be an option.
You say that, but that’s because you’ve never had the ability. Wait until Apple kills an app you like and pulls it, and you have the ability to have it anyways.
Do you know how many awesome apps there are that aren’t allowed in the store because Apple are serious gatekeepers?
3rd party apps used to be one of the biggest reasons people used to jailbreak their phones. iPhones are WAY too locked down.
And now you have decided that you know how I use my tech based on a few throwaway comments?
You have no clue of my setup, experience or requirenments, so don’t act all high and mighty.
Now, I have already stated since the beginning that having the option to sideload apps on iOS is a good thing, a good thing that very few people will use, but still a good thing.
We agree on the core point, why keep arguing?
Quote where I “decided I know how you use tech”.
I was speaking to iOS and sideloading, nothing else. Stop being hypersensitive.
But for the most part, I, like the vast majority of iOS users don’t really care enough about that to give a shit, I am happy that others do, because it is a useful feature, but not critical.
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You could have said “I don’t understand your argument” or “I disagree” instead, it would be more relevant and use less letters.
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You don’t have an argument, you like not being able to do something, that’s peak brain damage.
Just don’t use it, but don’t sell something not working as something good.
My entire point of my previous comment was making fun of Apple for being mad that they can’t have a monopoly, as it clearly won’t be a big deal to them.
Nice strawman, but you can keep it to yourself.
Cool but this is still just installation, right? The app will still have to be signed by apple? I will still have to pay Apple to build and sign the app? That’s the difference between android and iOS. On android you pay to put the app on play store. On iOS you pay to sign the app even if you’re developing locally. And yes, not all apps require signing but some do. You have to pay apple just to build the app and put it on your own phone.
This hasn’t been true for years…
“You can learn how to develop apps for Apple platforms for free without enrolling. With just an Apple ID, you can access Xcode, software downloads, documentation, sample code, forums, and Feedback Assistant, as well as test your apps on devices.”
https://developer.apple.com/support/compare-memberships/
Not to mention you can already side load apps using a free account as well, you just have to refresh the signing once a week. Presumably “real” side loading will remove that restriction and make the process simpler.
Are you sure? Last time I’ve checked adding Network Extension entitlement required joining apple developer program which costs $99 per year. It doesn’t say this explicitly in any of the docs but it does say you need a certificate and to get a certificate you have to join Apple Developer Program. So you have to pay $99 to install an app you’re developing on your own phone.
And how will you share an app with other people without signing it? I have no idea. Looking at the link you shared the free membership doesn’t include any form of app distribution. I think to install any app on iOS it has to be signed and to get a certificate you need to paid membership. Without paying the only thing you can do is to run some apps on your own phone. And from what you saying even this is difficult because you have to sing it every week.
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Woo. I know a lot of people don’t like Apple, but still a win if It ends up happening.
good even though i still hate apple
The worst thing in all of this is that we have terms like ‘sideloading’. The most american way of saying installation of what you want is not allowed. I sideloaded some shelves in my house without asking apple
Apple wants to “keep you safe”… Lol
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The whole vibe of ‘forever home’ and stuff like that, inventing a whole bullshit name for something that was completely normal one day ago - like installing software on your own devices.
It’s a different method of installing software. You can install an app of your choice via another device rather than download only certified software from an app store… Different words for different methods… Also sideloading has been around as a term for a long as smartphones have existed
Exactly my point. It’s a small computer you carry around and you sideload. I never sideloaded anything in my life, I just install things.
What? Where did you get that from?
If you take the iPhone as the first smartphone, those weren’t even supposed to have natively installed apps by third parties but just use websites for everything. You could install third party apps before that on symbian. You could always install apps on android. So no, the term neither has been around as long as smartphones nor is it ubiquitous.
“Sideloading” is only relevant to Apple devices as no other platform is as locked down as ios, so the word isn’t even used outside that context. For other devices, you simply “install” applications. That’s it.
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