Hello! I’ve tried a bunch of games but they’re just not able to start on proton/wine/GE proton version 8 and up. If I switch back to proton 7 they’re working fine. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have a solution. Also softwares that don’t require GPU work fine too with version 8.
There have been a few nvidia specific bugs recently I stumbled upon. One was that dx setup just hangs if I install new games with proton 8. Solved by just killing the process during install. The other one was that all games became extremly laggy, like 1fps on X11. That can be worked around by using wayland, which brings new bugs to the table. Oh the joy of nvidia drivers
I’m seriously considering going AMD for my GPU. I will sorely miss DLSS and good raytracing performance, but Nvidia driver support on Linux (and honestly even on Windows sometimes) is just terrible.
yep, I am distrohopping a lot of distros and nvidia support on Linux is very awful and sadly I have to revert to Windows atm. if I I buy AMD hardware I might try to switch
Well it’s because AMD’s drivers are just shit period. But most users on Linux use the Mesa drivers which are far superior to AMD’s proprietary drivers.
Sounds like a good combo, should be working fine. I’m assuming you’re trying to run Steam games, right? Perhaps restart Steam as well so it updates itself, and perhaps reboot if you’ve updated any of these recently.
No, I’m using bottles. And the proton 8 versions haven’t been running from the very beginning. I’ve tried a lot of things but nothing’s worked. Also tried it in Heroic launcher but soon as I check the dedicated GPU option proton silent crashes without even starting.
OK but what I mean is, are you running Steam games with it? Because Proton is only meant to be used with Steam games, and GloriousEggroll has been going blue in the face over the years warning people about it. GE-Proton expects certain stuff that’s only present in Steam games. It will probably work 9 times out of 10 with non-Steam games but it’s not a given.
If they’re not Steam games you want Wine-GE instead of GE-Proton, it has the same stuff that GE puts in their version of Proton. If you use ProtonUp-Qt it will let you very easily manage GE runners for Steam, Lutris and Bottles.
Proton Ge 7 and below work just fine so idk why it shouldn’t and none of the wine variants 8 and up are working, I’ve tried all of the available ones in bottles. I’ve tried in Heroic launcher too. I’ll try using protonUP. Thanks for the advice!
As in a GeForce MX 130? That’s from 2017, which is elderly by computer hardware standards, but I’m not aware of a specific reason why it wouldn’t work. It supports DirectX 12, at least
Yeah, that’s only a month old, I was definitely running proton 8 on drivers older than that. I’m installing via manjaro’s stuff though. Maybe clear your shader caches?
Not on my home PC at the moment, but from the internet it looks like Nvidia has a cache at ~/.nv, and steam stores theirs at path_to_library/steamapps/shadercache. I suggest renaming them rather than deleting them so you have the option to restore them if this doesn’t solve it.
Proton 8 requires vulkan 1.3 compatibility. I’m guessing the drivers you’re using (or maybe the drivers nvidia has published?) don’t have support for it.
I’m using it inside bottles in a flatpak shouldn’t it be setup automatically? Thought it’s not working natively either. How do I check for the vulkan version?
There have been a few nvidia specific bugs recently I stumbled upon. One was that dx setup just hangs if I install new games with proton 8. Solved by just killing the process during install. The other one was that all games became extremly laggy, like 1fps on X11. That can be worked around by using wayland, which brings new bugs to the table. Oh the joy of nvidia drivers
I’m seriously considering going AMD for my GPU. I will sorely miss DLSS and good raytracing performance, but Nvidia driver support on Linux (and honestly even on Windows sometimes) is just terrible.
Same here. I wish I had bought an AMD GPU. Dealing with nvidia drivers is the only issues I have nowadays with linux
Same. Only reason I’m still on nvidia is because I need hardware raytracing support for blender, and they haven’t ported that to Linux for AMD yet.
Can’t tell you how much fun it is to troubleshoot problems all day /s.
yep, I am distrohopping a lot of distros and nvidia support on Linux is very awful and sadly I have to revert to Windows atm. if I I buy AMD hardware I might try to switch
Nvidia is very much anti-Linux and anti-user.
They’re more focused on the server market these days, which makes their Anti-Linux sentiment hillarious.
yeah. in contrast. NVIDIA support for Windows is excellent. But, AMD for Windows is bad (we must stick to modified driver or driver from PC vendor)
Well it’s because AMD’s drivers are just shit period. But most users on Linux use the Mesa drivers which are far superior to AMD’s proprietary drivers.
I’ve been having the same issue on Pop!_OS.
What GPU you got. Maybe it’s an old GPU thing?
Idk if you ever solved this but after switching back to Wayland I am able to launch games with Proton 8.
Didn’t, unfortunately. I’m on Wayland too.
I have a 3050, driver version 535.113.01.
I’m using GE-Proton8-19, Vulkan 1.3.264 and Nvidia 535.113, and everything’s working perfectly fine. Manjaro btw.
How do I check for/install the latest vulkan drivers in kde Neon?
vulkaninfo --summarySays: Vulkan Instance Version: 1.3.204
Also nvidia driver version: 535.113.01
Sounds like a good combo, should be working fine. I’m assuming you’re trying to run Steam games, right? Perhaps restart Steam as well so it updates itself, and perhaps reboot if you’ve updated any of these recently.
No, I’m using bottles. And the proton 8 versions haven’t been running from the very beginning. I’ve tried a lot of things but nothing’s worked. Also tried it in Heroic launcher but soon as I check the dedicated GPU option proton silent crashes without even starting.
OK but what I mean is, are you running Steam games with it? Because Proton is only meant to be used with Steam games, and GloriousEggroll has been going blue in the face over the years warning people about it. GE-Proton expects certain stuff that’s only present in Steam games. It will probably work 9 times out of 10 with non-Steam games but it’s not a given.
If they’re not Steam games you want Wine-GE instead of GE-Proton, it has the same stuff that GE puts in their version of Proton. If you use ProtonUp-Qt it will let you very easily manage GE runners for Steam, Lutris and Bottles.
Proton Ge 7 and below work just fine so idk why it shouldn’t and none of the wine variants 8 and up are working, I’ve tried all of the available ones in bottles. I’ve tried in Heroic launcher too. I’ll try using protonUP. Thanks for the advice!
3070, driver version 535.113.01, kubuntu, GE-Proton8-20 works fine.
Are you using LTS or non LTS version?
Kubuntu 23.10
Could it be that I have an older GPU? It’s an MX 130. I haven’t been able to run any versions 8 and up in any wine variant.
As in a GeForce MX 130? That’s from 2017, which is elderly by computer hardware standards, but I’m not aware of a specific reason why it wouldn’t work. It supports DirectX 12, at least
Yup that’s the one.
Sorry, no idea… I don’t know anything about that gpu, never heard of it.
It’s a laptop GPU from 2017.
What version of the Nvidia driver are you running?
531.113.1 same in flatpak.
Yeah, that’s only a month old, I was definitely running proton 8 on drivers older than that. I’m installing via manjaro’s stuff though. Maybe clear your shader caches?
How do I do that?
Not on my home PC at the moment, but from the internet it looks like Nvidia has a cache at
~/.nv, and steam stores theirs atpath_to_library/steamapps/shadercache. I suggest renaming them rather than deleting them so you have the option to restore them if this doesn’t solve it.Proton 8 requires vulkan 1.3 compatibility. I’m guessing the drivers you’re using (or maybe the drivers nvidia has published?) don’t have support for it.
In the proton logs it says “info: Required Vulkan extension VK_KHR_surface not supported”. Does this seem like a problem?
The MX 130 does have Vulkan 1.3 support according to the specs. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-mx130.c3043
I’m using it inside bottles in a flatpak shouldn’t it be setup automatically? Thought it’s not working natively either. How do I check for the vulkan version?
Run this command to see what version of the vulkan API you’re on:
vulkaninfo | head -n 5outputs this