A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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I get it, I just find it ironic that people post privacy related content on a platform run by the worst company in the world privacy wise.
The modern world consists of irony, albeit often sad. The goal of many of them is to reach ordinary people. And they watch videos on YouTube. The end justifies the means, I believe.
@ExLisper
I think there are defendable grounds for saying someone posting about privacy on YouTube is and is not ironic. How surprising or unexpected it is depends on many factors like the poster’s goals, threat models, and degree of altruism, user expectations regarding the poster, and congruence or incongruence with all of the above.
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Yep, totally depends how you look at it.
Andthee worlds servers are hosted by Google, Amazon (AWS) and Microsoft (Azure). Are we not supposed to use the internet now?
This website you are commenting on has been delivered to you through billions worth of corporate infrastructure. Often these companies have long track records of privacy violations and corruption, and you reproduce their power by your participation. Yet you still seem to be using the Internet.
Yes, for sure, by simply connecting to the internet using my local provider and public backbone infrastructure (I’m not in US) I’m supporting corporations. Next you will tell me I’m supporting Saudi Arabia by turning light on in my bathroom.
You are getting dangerously close to understanding my reply. It was deliberately ridiculous, and is equivalent to the ridiculousness of your initial observation. Yes, there is and will be discourse around privacy on YouTube. No, it is not ironic.
If you think that putting content on YT and pushing more people to the platform hence giving them more data while talking about protecting your data from corporations is not ironic then you simply don’t know what irony is.
It’s either that… or - and that’s possible as well - you might be wrong. There’s entire meme traditions surrounding the ridiculousness of your remark.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat
No, it’s the first thing. Something being ironic doesn’t mean it’s bad or that it shouldn’t be done. I think you’re confusing it with hypocrisy and thinking I’m attacking the idea.
That doesn’t sound convincing at all. There’s just no irony in addressing privacy on YouTube.
There’s no irony in talking about press freedom in the unfree press nor is there anything ironic about a serf lamenting the socage in their Middle Ages village squares.
People converse where people are. That is trivial.
Again, you’re confused. Ironic doesn’t mean it’s illogical or wrong. But that’s ok, irony is a difficult concept to understand and has been misunderstood by many people before you (like Alanis Morissette, isn’t that ironic?). But hey, let’s ask AI:
Interesting… so I ask:
Yeah, pretty much my take. It’s both practical and ironic. You watch those videos so you focus on the practicality. I don’t watch them so while I don’t negate it’s practical I focus on the irony of it.