Not sure how long this has been a thing but I was surprised to see that you cannot view the content without either agreeing to all or paying to reject.
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Wouldn’t this be blatantly in conflict with the EU cookie law? Like I’m not from Europe but my understanding was that it needs to be equally easy to accept or reject all cookies. Dark patterns aren’t allowed
https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pay-models-should-offer-real-choice_en
Currently it’s a grey area I think
It’s not a grey area, it’s clearly illegal (consent has to be given voluntarily. If you can’t use the site without paying, that’s not voluntary). Agencies so far just decided to look the other way and play dumb. There are lawsuits ongoing.
UK is not EU, so EU law does not apply.
But UK laws do, which share a lot of commonality - like the GDPR
i think this one might, actually. When the EU passes a law like this, each member state passes it into their own national law, and so if these cookies laws were implemented before the UK left the EU they’d likely still be there
The GDPR was enacted in 2016 and came into effect in 2018. The UK left the EU in 2020.
It’s more than that. The EU law lets any EU citizen report a company that’s not in compliance. That includes companies not strictly in the EU. It’s why even US companies tend to be in compliance (or something like compliance).
If their product is accessible from within the EU, they have to implement the proper rules. That’s why many of the minor / weird news sites aren’t accessible from the EU anymore without VPN. Which I consider a win for EU citizens.
It’s even broader. An EU citizen living anywhere accessing any site they happen to live can report that site. It may be that the EU won’t be able to collect the fine–assuming the owners never travel to the EU–but they can be fined.
Person I’m responding to said this was common in continental Europe
I’ll call bullshit on that until examples given…
www.spiegel.de
www.faz.net
www.sueddeutsche.de
www.heise.de
www.golem.de
www.derstandard.at
www.repubblica.it/
I don’t think you understand what we are talking about here regarding the Mirror.
You called bullshit on it being common on the continent, I provided examples from the continent.
Just those aren’t examples of what the mirror website is doing. You didn’t get the point.
Of course they are. You can pay or consent to tracking.
I’ve never seen one of these before