A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Because they were brought to court to give info for a case and they proved they didn’t have any.
This is only for retro-active cases. A judge can perfectly well order them to do live surveillance of users and put it all under a gag-order and have the police ex-filtrate the data so that Signal can still claim they are not storing any of it.
Like all centralized services their claims to privacy are very shallow and the FBI is known to have tried to get paid informants on these large messenger companies to ex-filtrate data even without the above mentioned legal way via a court order.
You are incorrect. They cannot be compelled into developing a feature that does not already exist.
First of all yes they can, and secondly that’s not a new feature but any server has that built in by default. The question is just, is it stored or not.
From whom did this information come, from Signal themselves? It’s like asking a criminal if you stole diamonds in that store at 3 a.m. And again, they may have disclosed these messages to the government, but together they agreed to say that Signal does not have anything. I think we need to think about such things 😉
They’d be jeopardizing everything if they lied in such a situation.
There are still a few companies out there who truly stand for one’s freedom and privacy. Look at what happened to Mullvad VPN, for example. They were raided and there was nothing to be found, because their no-logs policy was actually true.
Maybe. Mullvad situation is same, they told us that they didn’t give any info to police. Same situation as with criminal when you ask him 🙂
Right! To date, and according to this doc from 2021, they can only provide date and time of account creation and date of last connection.