I wrote about the brand new Nexus mods app before, as it's quite a promising and exciting development for the future of modding (especially for Linux and Steam Deck). And now, they want your feedback.
Yesterday, July 1st, they announced the Alpha release of this next-generation mod manager and their new Product Manager got in touch to mention they “would be really keen to get feedback from Linux users”. So this is your chance to ensure Linux (and Steam Deck) finally become a first-class citizen for game modding.
The “biggest power” is the unique first-party processor it uses, the touch pads, the Steam Input configuration, Gamescope, sleep/resume function (tied to the processor) and the direct launch into Big Picture mode. Not to mention hardware that’s simply guaranteed to work with Linux/Steam. All things installing any old Linux distro won’t suddenly provide you.
interesting… can you please go ahead and tell this to my Minisforum PC i hooked up to my TV and let it boot into big picture and resume from sleep etc. just like its a console?
Because from what you told me it shouldnt work… but it does… and somebody needs to tell it and i can’t because i didnt spend so much time with it… you know i just installed bazzite and called it a day… so i don’t really have a big connection to it :/
But in all seriousness, you’re completly wrong here. The chip used in the Steamdeck sure is special and does a lot of heavy lifting. But everything that makes out the steamdeck is definetely not exclusive to its hardware. You 100% can just hook up any PC, be it some minisforum mini pc, a laptop or a off the shelf gaming PC, install literally any linux on it and within a few hours of installing and configuring stuff - you can make your own “steamdeck”. It works. Reliable, hasslefree.
I assume you just don’t have any real-world experience with setting something like this up. Go ahead and try it, it’s not hard and you will see that you just don’t need a steamdeck.
It’s absolutely nothing special to produce a console-like gaming experience with linux these days.
You really shouldn’t believe to be correct if everyone else has the real-world experience you try to tell others can’t exist
But in all seriousness, you’re completly wrong here…But everything that makes out the steamdeck is definetely not exclusive to its hardware.
Yes, I would be wrong, had that been what I said, but it isn’t. In fact I very clearly listed several software requirements that you’re just intentionally ignoring in a poor attempt to “dunk” on me and score fake internet points.
You 100% can just hook up any PC, be it some minisforum mini pc, a laptop or a off the shelf gaming PC, install literally any linux on it and within a few hours of installing and configuring stuff - you can make your own “steamdeck”.
No you cant. I just listed a dozen reasons why that isn’t true, you argued with one and declared that I was wrong while completely ignoring the rest.
I assume you just don’t have any real-world experience with setting something like this up.
Well you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass of yourself. I have a Steam Deck, and a desktop PC running Bazzite. The sleep function does not work.
It’s always the same, some says something factually wrong, gets corrected, the votes weigh in and then the argument of “you just try to dunk on my for fake internet points” come up… sigh
Alright, let’s go through it point by point.
You didn’t list a single reason why you CAN’T hook up any PC with Linux and create a “console”. You just listed a bunch of feature that are available to every single linux distro and a bunch of feature that are in fact exclusive to the steamdeck, but are NOT critical to achieve a console-like gaming system.
1.1 “Unique first-party processor” - Yup, thats steamdeck exclusive afaik, but it’s only special feature is the balance between TDP and performance. None of the firmware / software features rely on that specific CPU. I can “proof” that because as i said, my Minisforum can go into the exact same sleep / resume state as the steamdeck. But “oh here we go again!” you might say, i just listed the same one specific machine again. Yup i did, but my other machines do exactly the same. My NVidia powered PC and my personal gaming rig. Yes they all have AMD CPUs, i have no idea how good Intel goes with all this but honestly i don’t care. I doesn’t disprove my point in any way.
Touch pads - Yup exclusive to the steamdeck. Not at all critical to achieve a console-like gaming system.
Steam Input configuration - Not exclusive to the deck, available for every single machine that can install steam.
Gamescope - Not exclusive to the deck, available for every single distro that runs wayland.
Sleep / resume function - Not exclusive to the steamdeck. All my PCs achieve the same result as the deck.
Direct launch into Big Picture Mode - Lmao also not exclusive (how do you even think that?! xD).
Hardware thats guaranteed to work with Linux / Steam. Nowadays, it’s really fucking hardware to find mainstream gaming hardware that is NOT supported by Linux. Heck even NVidia works reliable with wayland with the newest 555 driver. How do i now? Oh because of my frigging 3070 that’s running in one of my gaming systems.
So, i just elaborated. Disprove me with real forum entries / wiki entries that describe that something that i wrote is not correct. Go ahead, i wait… but i won’t answer anymore.
then the argument of “you just try to dunk on my for fake internet points” come up… sigh
People will stop saying it when it stops being true.
You didn’t list a single reason why you CAN’T hook up any PC with Linux and create a “console”.
Once again with the strawman. Scroll up and read again. I know this is the conversation you may have been having in your head that you were “winning”, but it’s not the one that is taking place here. I’ll go ahead and ignore the rest of your comment since it’s predicated on a statement no one made.
The point is you can’t just slap any old Linux distro on any old laptop and Bob’s Your Uncle, it’s a Steam Deck, as was casually stated in the comment I initially replied to. There’s a lot more work involved, and even then you lack much of the hardware that makes the SD special.
That is not correct.
Elaborate
What about this isn’t correct?
The “biggest power” is the unique first-party processor it uses, the touch pads, the Steam Input configuration, Gamescope, sleep/resume function (tied to the processor) and the direct launch into Big Picture mode. Not to mention hardware that’s simply guaranteed to work with Linux/Steam. All things installing any old Linux distro won’t suddenly provide you.
interesting… can you please go ahead and tell this to my Minisforum PC i hooked up to my TV and let it boot into big picture and resume from sleep etc. just like its a console?
Because from what you told me it shouldnt work… but it does… and somebody needs to tell it and i can’t because i didnt spend so much time with it… you know i just installed bazzite and called it a day… so i don’t really have a big connection to it :/
But in all seriousness, you’re completly wrong here. The chip used in the Steamdeck sure is special and does a lot of heavy lifting. But everything that makes out the steamdeck is definetely not exclusive to its hardware. You 100% can just hook up any PC, be it some minisforum mini pc, a laptop or a off the shelf gaming PC, install literally any linux on it and within a few hours of installing and configuring stuff - you can make your own “steamdeck”. It works. Reliable, hasslefree.
I assume you just don’t have any real-world experience with setting something like this up. Go ahead and try it, it’s not hard and you will see that you just don’t need a steamdeck.
It’s absolutely nothing special to produce a console-like gaming experience with linux these days.
You really shouldn’t believe to be correct if everyone else has the real-world experience you try to tell others can’t exist
Yes, I would be wrong, had that been what I said, but it isn’t. In fact I very clearly listed several software requirements that you’re just intentionally ignoring in a poor attempt to “dunk” on me and score fake internet points.
No you cant. I just listed a dozen reasons why that isn’t true, you argued with one and declared that I was wrong while completely ignoring the rest.
Well you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass of yourself. I have a Steam Deck, and a desktop PC running Bazzite. The sleep function does not work.
It’s always the same, some says something factually wrong, gets corrected, the votes weigh in and then the argument of “you just try to dunk on my for fake internet points” come up… sigh
Alright, let’s go through it point by point.
You didn’t list a single reason why you CAN’T hook up any PC with Linux and create a “console”. You just listed a bunch of feature that are available to every single linux distro and a bunch of feature that are in fact exclusive to the steamdeck, but are NOT critical to achieve a console-like gaming system. 1.1 “Unique first-party processor” - Yup, thats steamdeck exclusive afaik, but it’s only special feature is the balance between TDP and performance. None of the firmware / software features rely on that specific CPU. I can “proof” that because as i said, my Minisforum can go into the exact same sleep / resume state as the steamdeck. But “oh here we go again!” you might say, i just listed the same one specific machine again. Yup i did, but my other machines do exactly the same. My NVidia powered PC and my personal gaming rig. Yes they all have AMD CPUs, i have no idea how good Intel goes with all this but honestly i don’t care. I doesn’t disprove my point in any way.
Touch pads - Yup exclusive to the steamdeck. Not at all critical to achieve a console-like gaming system.
Steam Input configuration - Not exclusive to the deck, available for every single machine that can install steam.
Gamescope - Not exclusive to the deck, available for every single distro that runs wayland.
Sleep / resume function - Not exclusive to the steamdeck. All my PCs achieve the same result as the deck.
Direct launch into Big Picture Mode - Lmao also not exclusive (how do you even think that?! xD).
Hardware thats guaranteed to work with Linux / Steam. Nowadays, it’s really fucking hardware to find mainstream gaming hardware that is NOT supported by Linux. Heck even NVidia works reliable with wayland with the newest 555 driver. How do i now? Oh because of my frigging 3070 that’s running in one of my gaming systems.
So, i just elaborated. Disprove me with real forum entries / wiki entries that describe that something that i wrote is not correct. Go ahead, i wait… but i won’t answer anymore.
Never Happened
Also never happenened
People will stop saying it when it stops being true.
Once again with the strawman. Scroll up and read again. I know this is the conversation you may have been having in your head that you were “winning”, but it’s not the one that is taking place here. I’ll go ahead and ignore the rest of your comment since it’s predicated on a statement no one made.
The point is you can’t just slap any old Linux distro on any old laptop and Bob’s Your Uncle, it’s a Steam Deck, as was casually stated in the comment I initially replied to. There’s a lot more work involved, and even then you lack much of the hardware that makes the SD special.