Just pasting more info for those that were concerned, like me:
Issue. This was rolled back and only seemed to affect Windows.
(I don’t use Brave as a daily driver, but it’s my Chromium browser of choice when I need assess if a website is really broken, or if it’s just misbehaving on Firefox.)
valid question, idk why would people downvote it
broken websites on desktop are rare and not nearly enough to drive a browser change, but they usually fall into two categories:
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websites that “break” on purpose for no good reason when they detect it’s not chromium. Either avoid the site or change the user agent.
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websites that degrade some functionalities because they rely on newer features or on how things appear on chromium. They’re usually CSS breakages and do not affect browsing that much.
Support for manifest v2 greatly outweighs these potential issues imo.
I see this as them giving companies a more privacy-preserving alternative to tracking. And just another privacy setting to opt out for us.
Instead of a reactive social media post, here’s how it works.
The only real alternative to this conflict of interest between companies and customers is an independent browser.
As open components, we have the OpenDocument standard + signal protocol for E2EE + CRDTs for conflict resolution. No idea whether they’re compatible though.
As a product, Collabora Online is open and collaborative.
It turns out that startup funding for Signal was from a US Government tied entity. Some people won’t like that. Here’s an interesting article: Signal Facing Collapse After CIA Cuts Funding
Someone already commented on the “nothing-burger” this article and line of reasoning actually is, so I won’t repeat it here.
$19m / 50 = $380,000 per year per employee!!!
This $19M figure includes more things. That’s why a blog post shouldn’t be read as an accounting report. Report summaries with salary figures are available btw, one search away.
The infrastructure was not designed to minimize the cost of operations, it was designed for another purpose, data collection by third parties:
The quoted text is not evidence for this. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Elon Musk also promotes Signal:
He promotes Linux too. Also, I bet he drinks water.
I see some valid concerns / questions, but it’s immersed in a muddy water of arguments that is hard to disentangle.
Telegram is the only massively popular messaging service that allows everyone to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source code that is published on Github.
Not true. Signal has a very similar client verification process to Telegram’s, described here. The lack of an iOS reproducible build is an Apple limitation / nuisance.
It’s very complicated, the 2nd jailbroken device is necessary because there’s no other way to download the .ipa, but even if you manage to do that and bit-for-bit reproduce the .ipa you downloaded from source, there’s no way to know if the App Store is sending every user the same .ipa or if your other, non-jailbroken iPhone downloaded a backdoored one.
Telegram docs even acknowledge these limitations.
Ultimately, this client verification is not the selling point Telegram’s founder makes it sound like, since most messages are not E2EE and the server code is closed.
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