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The first time I read the title I thought it was talking about some sort of space engine using protons.
rclone crypt + any cloud storage = 🥳
decrypt the synced content at local server/vps and serve via FileRun or similar
I got a Synology NAS and been using Synology Drive and it’s been a really great private hosted alternative to Google drive, Dropbox etc.
I’m presonally using QNAP with the Qfile app in in combination with Tailscale, a combination which pretty much allows me to sync and access my files anywhere. However, the issue is that there’s no end-to-end encryption of storage unless you specifically mount a Veracrypt volume on your NAS, which is a bit painful to do on mobile OSes. This may or may not be so important because you’re not storing your data in some random cloud storage service, but would be nice nonetheless.
However, another more serious issue is that the operating systems and apps of these NAS appliances (Synology and QNAP) are closed source and the companies are both based in Taiwan. I have no way of knowing what the software on these appliances and their accompanying apps are doing and whether they are sending my data back to their mothership. Because of this I’m looking into building a Linux-based rack/tower NAS server using old off-the-shelf parts, but this will take me a while. Using something like Proton Drive in the meanwhile would be nice.
I don’t see why I would use this over Mega.
Mega comes with a Linux application too which is why I ended up going for that.
Mega is no longer trusted per Kim the original owner he had a tweet about this at some point.
Does mega do end to end encryption?
Yeah. It’s encrypted in transit and on the servers.
Thank you, I will check them out
Yeah. It’s encrypted in transit and on the servers.
I hate their way of managing so much.
I pay them nearly $150 per month, but I don’t have lifetime or visionary so I’m just screwed and treated like scum.
How about roll it out to everyone that pays at the same time? I understand maybe holding back on free users, but why screw over your paying users? So ridiculous. I don’t know of any other company that does this.
If you don’t mind me asking, what services are you getting for that price and what are your pro/cons of them? Currently considering whether I should go self-hosted or Proton to get away from Google.
I have their legacy “professional” plan, and the reason it’s so expensive is because back then, you could pay to add additional custom domains.
I believe they now removed that feature? I cannot find it anywhere.
Basically I have a bunch of custom domains for personal stuff, work stuff, small home business stuff, etc, and I use ProtonMail to consolidate it all into one inbox.
So while ProtonMail has a bunch of pros, and you’ll be able to find them easily, I think it could be more beneficial to tell you about what I would consider cons.
Like what’s happening now, they always roll out features to their top tier plans first, which can definitely suck. They absolutely don’t care about how much people pay them, they care about the random plan badge associated with the account instead. When they finally added the ability to search for your emails, they rolled it out to visionary members first. Quite insane to have something so basic be locked behind a top tier membership for a limited time.
In my couple years being with them, they’ve had a few times where their services crapped the bed for multiple days straight. If I remember correctly, last year their mail and calendar services went down on a Monday and took until Wednesday for them to be fully restored. Absolutely destroyed productivity when you are unable to message your clients or check your calendar.
Proton also makes big claims and almost never meets them. They promised a redesign of the Android app for a couple years, and when it finally came, they were over 1 year past their already extended date. The same thing is happening with the new rewrite of the Android app that is supposed to support basic mail features like email threads.
Overall I like their services. The web UI is clean and has super awesome features like keyboard shortcuts to easily manage your email. Their services haven’t went down at all, or at least not significantly to my knowledge in 2023 yet, which is good. If you’re ignorant, and you don’t keep up to date about their new features or planned features, you’ll be happy. You really only start to get frustrated when you’re waiting for a basic feature and hear it’s limited to a higher tier at the moment.
You also have to be okay using their mobile app, as third party mobile email clients don’t work. On desktop a few different ones will work, like Thunderbird, but only if you use proton bridge with it.
Appreciate the in-depth response 🫶
Have you checked? I’m merely an Unlimited user and I already have the drive app.
Only interested in this when they have support for rclone, they didn’t last time I checked
3TB is still tiny. Both are shit options for people who need unlimited storage for backups
If your need is backups, it’s definitely not the right product. Drive is a product for your working files, not a bucket for sending your backups. There’s vastly cheaper and more sensible options out there for backups.
Fair enough. Any you could recommend apart from Backblaze and Wasabi?
It’s really not tiny for 99.9999% of users. For that much data, why not look into something like Wasabi?
Yeah, it would be nice if they let people buy storage at a reasonable rate.
They always forgot about Linux :(
Exactly. Their VPN app on Linux does not even have WireGuard options, let alone the Stealth Protocol. No port-forwarding either. There are so mamy features on Windows that they do not provide Linux users.
I have a seedbox built with ProtonVPN and Linux. You can’t use their app but the manual configuration does work. (Port forwarding is annoying though, i had to write a script to manage it.)
Do you mind sharing how you did that? I want to have a seedbox at my house too.
I just use Wireguard for ProtonVPN. Just download the wireguard config and import it into wireguard
Yep, this is what I’ve started doing and actually works better for my work flow as I use Wireguard for work related tasks as well.
I change servers very frequently. For that I have to download a lot of config files. Considering, I am paying Proton just as much a Windows user, I shouldn’t have to do all this work.
“Shouldn’t have to”
I mean, you don’t have to. There’s other services. Mullvad or whatever.
Having a handful of config files and switching to them isn’t the hardest thing. It works. Not like they’re preventing you from it.
It will probably get made eventually, but they have said there is no ETA for now. In the meantime, you can upvote the suggestion on their feedback forums.
On another post about this someone said the closed beta for Mac is next then after the Mac version is done they will start on a Linux version. So it will happen just not now.
I’m intrigued (Visionary here) but not seeing enough to switch from Tresorit just yet. I do love where this is going, though!
Tresorit is the gold standard. Quite hard shoes to fill.