Kevin Boone: The Gemini Protocol in 2026: growing, but still not setting the Internet aflame
kevinboone.me
external-link
The Gemini protocol has been around for over five years, but the world-wide web remains broken. This articles reviews what’s changed for the better over the last five years – and what hasn’t.

With surveillance capitalism reaching it’s peak in 2026/2027, is getting out the Web the only way for the privacy inclined user?

Will Gemini (or cousins) go the way of Linux? Or is it foverer condemned to go the way of Hurd

I fail to understand the point of this.

If the goal is to be able to deliver documents without any JS, cookies, tracking, etc., then why not just deliver documents that way through the web? No one is forcing anyone to put those things on any website.

Dessalines
link
fedilink
12
edit-2
1d

Browsers are bigger than operating systems now. One of the points of gemini is to use a very restricted language and abilities, so that developers can create their own gemini browsers easily.

As it stands now, google exerts enormous control on the web because of how complicated it is to make a browser. Currently mozilla is google’s only competitor in browser engines.

Browsers are bigger than operating systems now.

Not only that, there are web pages bigger than operating systems!

Exactly. This is one of the fundamental things that I never understood about Gemini. It’s simply a “web” that doesn’t support some of the features of the modern web that the author finds objectionable. I have no problem with anyone doing that or with the author’s objections but they did a lot of work to do what could have simply been done with a specific set of tools and “rules” applied to the existing HTTP/HTML web.

  • Create a standard for what subset of HTML standards are supported and maybe define some headers for these pages to use to enable crawlers to identify them
  • Build some browsers that only support the standard subset
  • Build search engines that only index pages that contain the smolweb headers defined in the standard
  • ???
  • Profit

I thought the goal was precisely not profit? 😂😂😂

But yes, this is exactly what I meant.

macniel
link
fedilink
01d

Build search engines that only index pages that contain the smolweb headers defined in the standard

and how do you propose to impose that? Heck robots.txt doesn’t even seem to be honored!

Heck robots.txt doesn’t even seem to be honored!

Eh. I make web pages for friends and family. We don’t want them indexed. In my server logs, most of the big scrapers are pretty good about honoring robots.txt. Google does. Meta does. At least some the AI scrapers do. Pretty sure Bytedance does too but I’d have to double check.

I’ll see a hit from let’s say G’s bot, fetching robots.txt, and then no other activity. For all the thigns I can shit on G and Meta for, this isn’t one of them.

Is it universal to heed it? Nah, ofc not. But it’s still more effective than you’d think, given it is voluntary.

Through FTP, torrents, ADC, ED2K, or…?

“Web” means HTTP and HTML.

@SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
creator
link
fedilink
1
edit-2
1d

I brain farted but I thought you had said the pages weren’t important, so the same would be said about the hypertext transfer protocol. Now I see you were talking about the cruft.

Create a post

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

  • Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
  • Don’t promote proprietary software
  • Try to keep things on topic
  • If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
  • Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
  • Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

  • 0 users online
  • 108 users / day
  • 435 users / week
  • 1.32K users / month
  • 4.54K users / 6 months
  • 1 subscriber
  • 4.77K Posts
  • 119K Comments
  • Modlog