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Crazy this is a thing actually being rolled out and it hasn’t hit world headlines.

Europe, USA and other countries are not far behind this initiative once they (governments) see how even more successful it is for collecting and sorting data to control citizens.

Time to go to GrapheneOS folks.

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Can’t speak for Europe but the USA already has this, only instead of a playstore app it’s a collection of backdoors and hacking tools, and they’re installed without our knowledge or consent by military intelligence institutions.

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Yes I watched a few videos about the NSA’s hacker group, TAO, and how they exploited backdoors and zero day exploits like crazy but without our knowledge. Went unknown for some 15 years til Snowden blew the whistle.

Scary stuff man.

Just wait until they fine you for noncompliance

No phone it is then…

no phones = you cannot create a bank account

Monero it is then

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They’ll make you pay taxes.

That’s fine.

This was my exact thought. I remember the 90s.

We had 10¢ pay phones back then though.

Everyone had landlines too. Ya, very different times.

They seem to have plans for those types too.
Withdrawing cash is going to be taxed.

What does withdrawing cash have to do with owning a phone?

If you have a smartphone, you get to use UPI (United Payments Interface).
If you don’t, you are basically limited to a certain amount of free withdrawal per month, which is set to prevent getting an outcry from BPL (below poverty line) people, which would otherwise be bad for elections.

I was considering pushing for open source UPI apps for Linux devices (and providing my services for development), to reduce India’s reliance on Google and Android but considering recent events, I believe that is not really going to align with the Government’s plans.

Aah you talking India specific, I was talking from a European perspective given the context of the posts I replied to originally.

Don’t they also have some NFC payment stuff there too?
Though that’s probably connected to the debit/credit card and not really a separate interface.

Basically :/

In the dwindling amount of phones that will allow you to install GOS on them?

GOS has partnered with an OEM so we may end up with GOS on more phone models.

Which one?

Nah, they’re mostly just going to endlessly harass you for it and wait for you to bribe them.
They will randomly send dacoits in uniform to beat you up and jail you and make it harder for you to earn a living until they get their birthright bribes.

Use a tablet with a MiFi router. The hostile network starts there.

fine imprison

FTFY

BBC had an article this morning. I follow them for a different perspective on North American news.

I’ve read about it in three different places this morning, I don’t live in India. I thi I it’s hit “world headlines”

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Time to go to GrapheneOS folks

I mean, it has been, for a long time, but this is not why. According to the article you can simply uninstall the app.

Bet you are going to have the app installed and scanned for every government service you want to use (including leaving the country).

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Maybe but that is yet another problem that GOS won’t solve.

Could I not just set up another profile in GOS with this app installed and switch to that profile when it’s needed?

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User profiles is an AOSP feature. It’s not exclusive to GOS.

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It absolutely hit world headlines way before you commented… I had seen it multiple times from several sources before this thread was made. From local (I’m Swedish) news, global news (grounded and kagi news), youtube and mastodon (links to MSM articles about it).

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