No one was talking about openness, we were talking about data collection.

The only way to ensure no data collection is to run locally, which requires openness.

You’re comparing online models with local models.

Correct

Local OpenAI models are also private.

They don’t exist, and privacy cannot be guaranteed.

Good thing no one said that. It’s not just America either.

So you do think that.

Most countries are significantly more free than China (and Russia and North Korea),

The word used was “worse” which is highly subjective.

and if you don’t believe that, you need to open your eyes.

Residents of “the land of the free” don’t understand irony.

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Okay at this point its pretty clear you have no intention of good faith discussion and want to constantly redirect the conversation to a strawman argument so I’m going to bail.

Dude, you are the one inserting words like “freedom” trying to slide the conversation.

China is not worse , principally because worse is unmeasurable.

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