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Title: Has anyone tried Riseup VPN?
I’ve been experimenting with some free VPNs, and it looks like Riseup is legit. I’m able to torrent on it without issue and the speeds are acceptable for my connection.
How come we don’t recommend this more? Everyone is always saying “no free vpns,” but how many of you have actually tried them? I feel like I’ve been wasting money on my VPN ever since I found Riseup.
Are we just being hustled by the viral marketers and their useful idiots?
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Why did this post get removed for spam, but the post about a paid VPN stays up?
Are the mods just removing posts that get reported, regardless of if rules are being broken? If so, they should consider how most people paying for a product will get very defensive whenever someone mentions they could be getting that product for free.
Edit: We have confirmation. Mods will delete posts that aren’t breaking rules just because they’re downvoted too much. Great censorship by proud consumers. Enjoy wasting your money.
He also tried to spread lies about Riseup requiring an invite code, which it does not. He also tried to spread lies about it not being for torrenting. Sharing information freely is activism and you don’t get to decide it’s not.
He then tried to make the discussion private, which I refuse to do because there is no reason to do so and it only serves to aid in censorship.
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At this point, it’s becoming clearer that there is a concerted effort to stifle any discussion of free VPNs on the internet.
I encourage anyone with a brain to try for themselves instead of letting others make decisions for them. Theory is no substitute for experience, and you could be wasting a lot of money just to fit in with suckers on the internet.
You are mistaking a “concerted effort” with a general consensus that free VPNs are not a great idea. “If a service is free, you are not the customer, you are the product” is a pretty good rule of thumb. Your downvotes aren’t necessarily a conspiracy here.
I disagree with the statement now a days. There are so many paid services that still sell your data. I use almost entirely all FOSS programs which are also monetarily free and none turn me into their product.
There it is, he regurgitated it!
No, the real issue is that people don’t want to admit when they’ve been taken for a ride. I see it all the time and don’t expect more from consumers at this point.
Anything to avoid admitting you spent money on something you could’ve gotten for free.
“It’s easier to fool a man than to convince him he’d been fooled.” - Mark Twain
How ironic…
How so? I’ve admitted in my post that I wasted money by paying for a VPN for years.
May I ask how do one try the trustworthiness of a VPN?
I mean, if the question is to decide if it works or not, well, chances are it does work but that’s not saying much. As much as I appreciate your suggestion to make up our own mind, well, in such a situation we can hardly decide by ourselves and we need independent audits. So, my question would be: are there any for that VPN you mentioned (I don’t know anything about it myself, never heard about it, never used it, which means I have nothing against or for it).