Proton Mail came under scrutiny for its role in a legal request by the Spanish authorities leading to the identification and arrest of a user.
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Email is bad in general and nothing can fix that

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PGP doesn’t protect anything but message contents. Additionally, if you key it compromised all of your messages are compromised.

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PGP doesn’t protect anything but message contents.

Indeed, be careful with choosing your email subject line when using GnuPG to encrypt.

Additionally, if you key it compromised all of your messages are compromised.

Yes, maybe for some people it is. I once knew a person who created a new GnuPG key every few months. It is also recommended in some howtos that making your key never expire is a bad idea.

By the way, for all readers interested in using GnuPG, FSF updated their Email Self-Defense guide this week. https://hostux.social/@fsf/112405348416810419

Not sure how they’re better than proton is terms of compliance and anonymity

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Source: trust me bro

It’s just that more people use proton so more of them have their identity leaked. I don’t see how the terms of these 2 companies are better

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I’ve never heard of those 2 providers and they don’t seem to be any better. I’m just looking for facts to back that and so far I haven’t seen any

Being skeptical doesn’t mean being a troll or a fed, wtf. I don’t know what you’re on but it seems cool

As for the « are you trying to discredit … without evidence » I want to answer « what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence »

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I’ve never heard of those 2 providers and they don’t seem to be any better.

You never heard of the other two providers but yet you already draw the conclusion that they don’t seem to be better. What does “better” mean to you in this context ?

Their privacy policy. They log IP addresses and are not immune to legal actions, and as such, are not really better than Proton in terms of legal actions

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Their privacy policy. They log IP addresses and are not immune to legal actions, and as such, are not really better than Proton in terms of legal actions

They log IP addresses ? Source ?

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You react to small disagreements with insults, accusations of the user being a fed and threats of censorship (banning him because you disagree with him). I have no idea if you’re an admin on lemmy and actually have the power to do this, but this is fairly downvoteable in my view.

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Exactly! I am not saying that Proton is some kind of virus but lots of folks are screaming “Proton! Proton!” (and “You have to think for yourself!” - Life of Brian) as if it is the only answer for privacy and security.

Riseup exists since about 1999 and is like Disroot non profit with focus on activism. Proton is like some other companies, I think, a response to the Snowden revelations, which is iirc 2013, a time after which self-hosting email (e.g. Mail in a box) became topical for a while and several other new email companies started to pop up.

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the two you suggested though are US based though.

Disroot is in Europe.

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