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  • It is not unsafe.
  • It is not 100% private. Admins can read your messages if they choose to investigate your messages.
  • It will not get blasted out to the whole fediverse; just to the recipient you indicated. (Unless an admin from the previous point reads your message and publishes it publicly on the fediverse)
  • You do not get to do anything naughty with it; expect to be caught if you break the rules.
booty [he/him]
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It is not unsafe.
It is not 100% private. Admins can read your messages if they choose to investigate your messages.

These points contradict one another.

Melody Fwygon
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No; they don’t. You just wanted to be a reply guy.

booty [he/him]
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They absolutely do. A private messaging system which is not private is the definition of unsafe. Especially in the context of a post on !privacy@lemmy.ml

It does what it claims to do, it’s just that what it claims to do is clearly not complete privacy.

booty [he/him]
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If something claims to be unsafe and delivers, that doesn’t make it any more safe.

How so? The message is safely delivered solely to the intended recipient, albeit in plain text (not private).

If there’s anywhere that the commonly used email analogy fits, I think it would be here

Safe and private are synonyms in this context.

I disagree.
Users likely trust their instances admins

booty [he/him]
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What definition of safe are you using which makes a private messaging system without privacy safe? What would have to occur for it to become unsafe, if not being private does not make it unsafe in your eyes?

Unless I run a Lemmy instance myself (which is possible), I have zero reason to trust an instance’s admins.

Even if my instance’s admin happens to be the founder of privacyguides.org, that doesn’t mean he will never read any “private” messages (or be forced by someone else to hand them over).

if you don’t trust the instance why would you use it? 🤨

Even if I did fully trust my instance, I also would have to trust any instance I message with.

I personally just use Lemmy for public comments.

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