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@cried5774@reddthat.com

I just ordered couple of yubikeys to play around with. Mainly because my phone died and couldn’t get into Gmail to get my bit warden two factor email without my phone to approve the Gmail login… Luckily phone came back online but was a bit scary to think how tied I was to my phone being operational.

@octopus_ink@lemmy.ml

If you put the yubico authenticator on another device you are back in business. If your phone is not literally your only computing device just install the desktop app. My problem with it (also a noob) is that apparently ANYONE can pick up your yubikey when you lose it, fire up the yubico app on their phone and learn what accounts you have protected with it. I’m guessing this is due to a config error on my part, but so far I have not found a solution.

@sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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haui

Me too on the „need backup“. Any idea how to go about that? I know some sites have backup keys for otp but I have no process for storing then and avoiding a bind (like storing the 2FA for my vault in my vault and getting locked out).

I will probably have to play through scenarios or is there a comprehensive guide on this (probably)?

@sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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haui

Pretty good idea with the yubikey. If they werent 50 bucks I‘d get one but thats a little much for an optional security device that has this one function. Still neat though.

@sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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haui

Understandable. I‘ve had a recent „near miss“ if you will and since then I thought I might wanna check my security as a whole. So maybe I‘ll end up with that as well.

Is it possible to use generated keys as a login option on websites btw? I know its usable for ssh and git but i dont know about other sites. If you made one key for each site, they could never leak your password as they dont have it. Would be a ton of work though.

@sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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haui

Thanks for mentioning that! I‘ll probably need to check that out then.

@wellbuddyweek@lemm.ee

I use vaultwarden (selfhosted bitwarden), which stores both passwords and OTP keys on my own server, which I backup regulary. This allows acces to my OTP keys from any device, as long as it’s in my local network or connected to my VPN.

Must say I really like this solution. If one of my devices fail, I have a pretymuch seamless switch to any of my other devices, which are already configured anyways, since it’s also my passwordmanager.

If the server fails, my phone, pc and laptop all still have the keys cached, so I can use those untill I’ve restored a backup.

haui

Thats my configuration as well. I didnt think of the cache. Thanks for mentioning it.

I do think having the mfa on there is risky as you factually disable mfa with it imo. Its basically 2 passwords in the same place.

2nd issue: my vault has mfa as well for the admin account which I cant store in there for obvious reasons.

So in combination I‘ll probably use a second vault to store these to keep them seperate. Will check out aegis for this.

@wellbuddyweek@lemm.ee

For the first issue thats not realy true. To access the totp key you still need the actual device with the key, it’s only now split over multiple devices. Like having multiple bank cards for the same account.

For the seccond issue: Thats a good point, I have not found a good solution for that either, unfortunately

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