I’m not saying what’s “the correct play” or not, I’m refuting the claim all Chromium-based browsers are immediately affected, because I know of at least one that will keep V2 support.

But I will keep using Vivaldi. It will take me the same time to migrate to Firefox regardless if I do it today or a year from now when Vivaldi drops V2 support. I have nothing to gain by migrating sooner, but potentially much to gain by waiting.

• Vivaldi might decide to keep support indefinitely,
• Vivaldi might decide to update the built-in ad blocker to use UBlock Origin tech,
• Google might backtrack the decision (hah!),
• a whole different browser I want to try might come out in the meantime and I’d have to migrate twice,
• Firefox might die after losing Google funding due to the monopoly ruling.
• I will build a new PC in a year and it will be a good time for a software refresh,
• Or, the most likely, none of this will happen, and I will migrate to Firefox then, if that’s the best move at the time.

Vivaldi said they will keep V2 support. Not forever, but as long as they are able.

Sure it’s possible, but it’s not practical.

I hope we will get to the bottom of this, because all the armchair experts with tons of different explanations for how this happened are annoying. There are so many people confidently explaining different conflicting theories.

so who cares

All the other people who do use one?

Every so often someone posts something on Lemmy or somewhere else which contains a Twitter link that’s interesting or relevant, and so there is value in me visiting it. Just because I don’t “use” Twitter doesn’t mean I don’t end up reading a Twitter post every so often, because other people use it.

I used a fake name on Facebook and one day I similarly got suspended asking for government ID. So I photoshopped some fake ID with the fake name, printed it, put it in a plastic sleeve and took a photo of that, and they accepted it.

I didn’t look into it much other than trying it out for 15 min. Good to know lol.

some new upstart closed Source program that is shiny just like how Discord took over from Slack

Guilded already exists. It’s a Discord clone with more features, but no one uses it. I assume they are just waiting for Discord to fail one day.

The certs are sold by certificate authority companies, and Microsoft doesn’t get a share of that, though I’m not sure.

Yeah, software being signed says nothing about it not being malicious or insecure, but it does prove the author is what it says, and if it is malicious then the responsible party is clearly visible.

For non-commercial hobby/open-source software the certificate price is prohibitive, so the only 2 options are Microsoft Store or accepting that users will see the scary warnings, and of course complain to the developer about it.

You can pay a one time fee if $25 to get Microsoft to sign your app on the Microsoft store, or you can pay $400+ per year to buy your own certificate. So Microsoft Store is sadly the cheap way to release apps on Windows. (Without users getting scary warnings from Windows and AV about installing unsigned aoftware)

I’d assume they want to be able to update it and that’s why it needs a store listing.

anyone remember the time when google removed(!) their internal “don’t be evil” rule?

I remember when media falsely reported clickbait articles that they did and people bring that up to this day. They moved it from the introduction to the closing statement. Which you can argue makes it less prominent or whatever, but it was never removed.

Of course it makes no difference, it wasn’t followed either way, and definitely isn’t followed now. But no, it was never removed. You can see it yourself right here at the end: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

Yes. Which reinforced the need to not trust binary releases, like these Flathhub ones, as they don’t have such assurances.