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Got proof for that last claim?

I thought their sealed sender feature was meant to prevent exactly this scenario.


This doesn’t affect valve at all though. It’s borrowing their tech that they’ve made open source, and figuring out how to use it elsewhere outside of steam.

Actually, it’ll benefit them. More eyes are on proton and any fix will benefit everyone, including games played via steam.



So if an iPhone gets stolen, would having Find My completely disabled actually be a bad thing if we’re trying to improve device security? I see that’s listed in the article.

Would this affect the ability to use the remote lock & wipe functionality?


It wouldn’t surprise me if WhatsApp’s model on this is what the UK government were thinking of with the Online Safety Bill when they tried to enforce a back door in encrypted messengers.

It’s incredible just how much more interesting metadata can be than the actual message contents.

Explaining this to people when they ask why I don’t use WhatsApp is pretty difficult though.

I wouldn’t feel comfortable if I found out that what I thought was just a casual walk down the street mindlessly chatting with a friend turned out to also involve a third party neither of us were aware of tracking all of our movements.


I’ve not seen this before. This is really neat! Thanks for sharing ❤️


I believe this is down to what they define as being end to end encrypted.

It’s no secret that WhatsApp adopted Signal’s encryption protocol just before Meta acquired them, but since it’s all closed source we don’t know if they’ve changed anything since the announcement in 2016 that all forms of communications on WhatsApp are now encrypted and rolled out.

Within WhatsApp’s privacy policy, it’s important to note that they only mention end to end encryption when it comes to your messages. Everything else is apparently “fair game” for collection. Of note, the Usage and Log information point details all the metadata they collect on you automatically, including how you use the service; how long you use the service; your profile info; the groups you’re in; whether you’re online; and the last time you were online, to name a few things.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that technically they are end to end encrypted by definition, and whilst they’ve gone ahead and implemented things such as encrypted backups (that you must enable) to make it harder for them to read your message contents, they can still collect a lot of metadata on every user.


It’s an email alias service that generates a gibberish albeit unique email which then forwards on any received emails to your specified email inbox.

As far as I can tell there’s no way to link the two together unless you can see where the emails are being forwarded to.

DuckDuckGo offers a similar service (but free), also Proton (simple login) and addy.io (formerly AnonAddy).

Unsure about firefox relay specifically, but I’ve used DuckDuckGo and simple login (after it was acquired by proton) and both have to process the email first before it forwards it onto you. In the case of DDG, they also helpfully strip out any trackers in the email they pick up too.


I haven’t used it myself, but try boatswain? It looks a little more fully featured.

It’s on flathub, I know that much!


That’s more point in time location sharing rather than real time.

I see “real time” I think it updates where I am on a map for as long as I’ve specified, similar to what WhatsApp and telegram do.

It’s a feature I’d really like in signal, though.


The one anti-spam module in the server code and… what else is proprietary?

FCM? The thing they need to give android users (with Google play services installed) notifications?



In January 2021, after WhatsApp, the most popular messaging app in the world, became acquired by Facebook, and announced its sharing of data with its new parent, Signal became the top downloaded app in > 70 countries.

Errr…

WhatsApp was acquired by meta back in 2014.

2021 was when WhatsApp released updated terms of service that allowed them to connect to Facebook servers and share the data they needed/wanted to.

This article seems like the average low effort hit piece against signal that keeps on popping up.

I still think signal is the easiest messaging app out there for the average user to gain a little more privacy in their digital lives.


Sounds like the OP is reading “takes” as in to steal, whereas it most likely just means being able to take a picture or video from within the app lmao.