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I would probably agree with you to some degree within other contexts, but I do not see anything like that here. It’s easy, vote with your wallet. Don’t like something a company or its executives do? Don’t give them money, done, easy.

Praising trump for something he hasn’t even done yet seems like a no brainer to me. It’s indicative of an attitude held by the person that can make sweeping changes to Proton as a company. I don’t see how it’s controversial honestly. If this post also showed a campaign of people demanding everyone stop using proton over this opinion, maybe you’d have a point. Spreading it for awareness is a good thing, not “hysteria”.

Edit: One last thing, can you provide evidence that any of this originated in America? “You are on the inside and don’t see it” is not evidence.


Weird, I noticed all my comments got a downvote by the time I loaded your replies. In any case, reading so much into a downvote might also fall under “misreading tone”. Kinda laughable to me in any case that downvoting could correlate to such political turmoil which is what you seem to be saying.


Is this thread hysterical? I don’t think so. Only saw like 3 people saying they would see this as a sign to stop patronizing the company, which makes sense to me entirely. You might be misreading the tone here.


…this is their CEO. “One of their employees” couldn’t possibly be more unrepresentative here.


His insinuation that Democrats are supported by big business is also fairly defensible

The truth comes out. You think this is a “both sides” thing, and you agree with it.

No, what’s being said ITT is that he’s praising trump prematurely and people don’t want to support a business run by people who do that. Incredibly simple, and might I add, logical.


Right. I thought they were talking more about the recent insane inflation of used car prices and maybe they knew something to explain it that I’d missed.

Edit: looking back at their original comment, yeah, nm, you’re right.


Avoiding giving your money to companies that go against your politics isn’t some irrational “tainted” concept. Not sure why you’re insisting it is. It’s just not supporting things you don’t want to happen. These companies donate to and otherwise push forward bad policy. Also, still not sure where you got that Americans invented any of this, or how it would relate to the recent increase in polarization


Can’t tell if > is meant as “greater than” or “can be replaced by”



Americans did not invent the idea of voting with their wallets. What a preposterous claim



Right I’m the one here turning life into a shitty boring meme


If you’re an apple fanboy, you’ve got a lot of secret closet cries these days


Oh they’re here, just seething about this and their precious green texts or whatever the fuck else false sense of security they’ve been clinging to


haha I had a coworker who worked a dev role at a corporation and he simply refused to follow the IT processes. He just installed linux and told them to leave him alone every time they complained. I don’t think I could pull that off though


Great! Always good to see people leaving windows. As someone, who for about 15 years, said “linux isn’t ready yet” and then finally switched 99% to linux, it is very painful to use windows these days. I had to test something on windows the other day and literally had to reboot 4 times for updates because it had been like 2 months since I updated.


That’s excellent. I played around with fedora a bit and I felt it was very solid. I hope you have the same experience!


Wow. No one is abandoning hope by simply recognizing what options exist


  1. I didn’t realize what community it was because they weren’t specific at all. They just asked for an alternative.
  2. You don’t seem to realize that it is literally true: everyone gets compromised. I mean not only companies but it also applies to self hosted systems. One example was that my home server got hacked a few years ago. Magically virus filled executables showed up in thousands of my directories. This was a Linux server. Any open port will get hijacked if it is open for long enough.
  3. This type of product asked about literally does not and cannot exist in a self hosted situation. The only way they can work is if a critical mass of other users are near the device, also using the supporting app, with Bluetooth enabled, that way you have any chance of its location being reported.
  4. The data breach that happened in this case affected data that almost every citizen has out there anyhow from a dozen other data breaches. Yes it obviously is sometimes due to irresponsible practices but there isn’t much to be done about it now that the data has been out there for a decade.

I know you mean well here but you’re off base and it’s coming across as lecturing me about something you aren’t fully informed about. I am not saying people shouldn’t care about privacy. I’m saying if you want this type of product, all the concerns you’re mentioning here are literally impossible to avoid. The best you could do is find the company with the least number of breaches and then pray they remain that way. But that doesn’t really get you very far.


They asked for an alternative to airtags. I provided one. Doesn’t matter if they were compromised because like I said, everyone is eventually. The data leaked is almost certainly super redundant for almost every user anyhow


Maybe I’m wrong but I remember the old days of jailbreaking an iPhone (4s my last iPhone) and I know some tweaks are now in implemented on iOS their own way soo you’re correct (does this count??)

Rereading our exchange multiple times even, I’ve no idea what you’re saying or what this has to do with anything.

Apple and google? They kinda copy each other right?

No. You aren’t listening. Apple is known especially for stealing ideas. It’s their whole business model, in fact. Steve Jobs bragged about it.

I don’t really know if a tile is “good for privacy”. It depends on a lot of things and you should research it yourself. Since my goal for the tile is to be able to find my devices, keys, bags, etc, I expect there to be personal info asked for and that’s true. I highly doubt an airtag would be any better for privacy.


Which happens to practically all companies eventually.

The hacker gained access to a customer support platform. Credit card numbers, passwords, and location data are not at risk, says parent company Life360.


Not sure where the disconnect is. You weren’t very clear with your question but yes I did take time to attempt to clear up what you seemed to be asking about.

And no, not every big company flat out steals ideas. Apple is notorious for doing this, but other companies are not. At least none I can think of.


Tile (stylized as tile) is an American consumer electronics company which produces tracking devices that users can attach to their belongings such as keys and backpacks. A companion mobile app for Android and iOS allows users to track the devices using Bluetooth 4.0 in order to locate lost items or to view their last detected location.[1] The first devices were delivered in 2013.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tile_(company)

AirTag was announced on April 20, 2021,[3][4] made available for pre-order on April 23, and released on April 30.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTag

Apple has stolen most ideas they ever execute. A lot of people believe they do the best job of execution but I don’t buy that in most cases. I mean here’s a perfect example. A product that has been working great with any device for 8 years and here they come with a version that locks you into their ecosystem. I’m good on that.


…airtags* are what were asked about an alternative for. Autocorrect.


Tile? The brand that predates airtags and where apple stole the idea from and just made it proprietary to their ecosystem

Edit: what a bizarre thing to downvote


No one said it was a grand feat. I said it was quite a bit more than hello world which it obviously is. Even if it’s only setup which we’ve no reason to think unless you think most people who claim to have written apps are lying


Everyone can write software? I’m fucked then… Guess I’ll be homeless now


I’m pretty sure this guy was just a project manager or similar. So yeah I am not surprised they’re not mentioning technical hurdles.


Right a lot of assumptions are being made here. The only thing I assume is this company built some app


Yeah what I think is weird is that you make a bunch of assumptions about how the app is built. Experienced developers imo know that things are unexpectedly difficult all the time. Even when they are supposed to be as simple as you’re assuming here.


Congratulations you’re clearly an amazing developer if you have to talk about this so weirdly



… Do you think reading a sensor and then accurately determining when the sensor data meets a threshold is the same as displaying static text? Kind of an exaggeration


One of the dumber positions I’ve seen in a while: that it’s someone’s right to break the rules and put others’ safety at risk with fucking vaping, and disallowing that is against anyone’s privacy.

edit: judging this sub so hard by this post and its comments. wow.


They ought to use it that way if they aren’t. Privacy does not mean “flagrant ability to flout rules or laws”