Yea sports shooting is totally useful because they’re made to kill paper targets and clay doves. Sure thing

I mean I’ve already pointed out other uses, but ok…

Naa that’s literally the end goal. It’s pointless to sugar coat it.

Because I’m not the one suggesting that companies be liable for what people do with their products. Way more people a year die from alcohol than guns (it’s like a 3xs as many) and alcohol has no other purpose but a vice, yet you’re probably not going to suggest that companies be liable for drunk drivers who kill people, nor are you going to suggest that they cover all the alcohol related health issues…are you.

Well apparently the rest of the people here didn’t get the memo

No I’m not, that’s literally the end goal of all people who are anti-gun.

Thread chain == thread. I was talking about noodle…and wtf why are hunting rifles the worst type?

This entire thread chain is in place to suggest that only guns which are designed to kill, should have their manufacturs liable for what other people do with the product. No other industry was brought up, just guns. Why? Because at the end of the day, you’re all for complete bans, and no amount of “nuh uh, we’re fine with hunting rifles” or whatever else bullshit, that’s the end goal…you just try and sugar coat it so you can try and gain some support for the idea.

The fuck? Vets do much, much more than just euthanize animals. What do guns do other than shoot projectiles intended to kill?

Just using your silly logic…you know vets have captive bolt guns and suppressed firearms as well, does that make their tools pointless because they only kill?

How do guns defend without using the threat of violence? How do they act as a physical shield?

Same way a sword or knife can be used to kill and also defend, its a force multiplier.

Yes, it’s possible to practice using tools designed specifically for killing. Cars are tools designed specifically for transport, and people have contests for driving those, too.

Glad you’re grasping it

Why is it so hard for you to accept that guns are tools designed specifically for killing? That’s literally just what they are.

Because I’m not the one that suggests magically thinking banning them all will make the world a safer place. Do you think the 100lb woman can defend against a 250lb man? Or what about minorities who are threated by a few racist fucks? Or an LGBTQ+ person who has a bunch of bigots trying to kill them? Should these people just not get a gun because it’s designed to kill? What tool do you suggest they use?

This is like saying veterinarians are killers with their tools because they euthanize animals…

Just having arms is a deterant, yes firearms are designed to destroy, they’re also designed as a defensive tool.

You clearly ignored sports shooting which is an actual sport, even an event in the Olympics.

You cannot get select fire firearms as a civilian, they’re effectively banned.

You can sport shoot with them, you can hunt for food with them, and every military uses them…for mainly defense.

Uhh really hope that’s sarcasm…

Where did I say that you can run ios apps directly on Android or osx dmgs on Windows? I never did, I said they almost always have versions of it that run on different platforms. There is a windows version of Photoshop…so your logic here is that osx version of Photoshop cannot run on Windows…no shit…

And I’ve already pointed out that almost all products you buy are not OS specific…the license is for the software not the OS. So you don’t have to rebuy, but that seems to be something the fanboys are missing.

??? What’s this supposed to be? Shit that’s on the app store…also exists in the android store, usually it’s a 1 to 1.

??? All of that is accessible on both other OS’s

Did you miss the part where I said sell it and buy a x86 machine and have money left over?

Well if you’re playing devil’s advocate then I guess ok? But that’s a tough job on this one, as there are very little pros to sticking with apple.

What media is served by apple only?

??? No the whole discussion on this has been how people can’t get out of the ecosystem. Which I’ve provided multiple ways to get out of it. There is really zero point to even bring up ARM MacBooks, because as you have said the ecosystem isn’t exclusive.

Cool, tell me again where we are? And if you think legislation will actually be brought up and passed here in the states…

Ok? And Photoshop license isn’t for just osx… you’re literally proving the point that you can migrate but you don’t want to because of some stupid allegiance to apple

Most might be native but tell me what apps don’t have an alternative on x86 and I’ll agree with you.

Good luck with that…I vote with my wallet instead of buying into fad shit.

Gimp for Linux. It’s free even.

On top of that the Photoshop license is not os specific. You can use it for Windows or osx.

There isn’t a good app ecosystem for arm on osx either? What’s your point?

And windows/Android/Linux all have alternatives. This is not an excuse.

??? So you’re plan is to just say fuck it, and continue to be fucked over by apple? The fuck logic is that? Almost all software has a replacement in windows/Linux. I work in all 3 ecosystems, there is very little that lacks an alternative in each os. Sticking to osx/iOS is just a cop out.

Uhh ok install windows then?

Where did I say refund anything?

What parts aren’t compatible? And you can load Linux and Windows on all Mac’s. You can also sell your iPhone and buy an android phone with money left over… getting out of the apple closed ecosystem is cheaper than sticking with it.