I take issue with the statement “passwords are protected by the fifth amendment”.

SCOTUS is not guaranteed to affirm that above statement.

Well you see, those victims are just untouchables, whereas Pirates attack the property of the rich…

I kinda like the baseline security advantages. Not that android can’t be better in security, but none of my friends give a shit, and so my iphone friends walk around with better baseline security.

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ok, here is more than a few posts on this. that said: both have made alot of strides recently, basically the order of consensus is:

• a google pixel flashed with graphaneos
• iphone
• pixel
• samsung and use adb to remove everything you can.

also, how the devices are setup and used matter alot. other than a pixel + graphaneos, iphones tend to be better at privacy but the devil is in the details. iphones are also more “hygienic” in alot of ways, that you cant see. BUT android is open source for the most part, and are HGIGHLY configurable. and hardware wise has wider variety of choices.

security wise also pixel + graphaneos tends to be top shelf. but iphones, tend to have decent track record. and with proper setup and some addons, it really locks down pretty decently. for other androids, the proper addons, and adb mode to remove all the junk.

support wise? pretty much apple kills it, and everyone else is second and in some cases really distant second or even worse. also google does csam scanning and has blocked folks in false positives and the support structure does not have any way for manual review to get your account back it takes months of fighting them from the reports I have read.

this is all part of the really bad support model thats google. while, google one support of easy things is decent, when it gets real your chances get dicey…

apples support is decent on all levels, not great but decent and in almost all cases better then googles.

data protection? its an apple game now, you can enable adp and the key that encrypts your data is yours and apple documents what key encrypts what data. google, on the other hand, says they encrypt things but the dont really have any good documentation on whats encrypted and whos key encrypts what noor do they allow you to use a key you create like apple does.

backup and recover? while they both do it, apples backup and restore is light years better, googles works, but app level stuff the app devs must create a manifest which tells the backup process what to backup etc. so, over all they both work, its just that apples works better.

applepay vs googlepay, they both work and both are secure, but apples doing full tokenization and googles doing virtual credit card numbers to front for your real card, googles nebales more compatibility with banks easier, apple requires actual setup and key exchanges to onboard each bank. but in the long run while both are considered good, apples is the better way.

IOT and automation, both have a ton of automation, tho googles probably ahead here. but for the iot and home stuff a new standard “matter” will standardize it all so future state wont matter what device you have.

thats it for now.

SCOTUS has not yet decided that a password in your brain is protected by the fifth.

Your phone is protected by the fifth.

Until SCOTUS decides that passwords are protected by the fifth, you can be held in contempt of court by a judge indefinitely because you forgot the password (theoretical scenario, has not yet happened).

The apps requirement pisses me off. Both Android/IOS have some sort of pass system.

The right to not surrender a pass code has actually not yet been decided. We already have differences between regions.

Soon?

That’s ok. Most won’t do so. And if you have a “malfunctioning” module, then you probably aren’t maintaining your car properly, so rates will have to be adjusted accordingly.

It is a civilized world. All autonomous worker drones are using 94% of cognitive resources just justifying maintenance resources. And the ones who accidentally got better CPUs are too small in population to matter.

Your phone isn’t trackable? You avoided all the license plate scanners? Your work/home has a higher rate of accidents between them?

Here’s a “funny” story. Back in the day I was working (IT) for insurance companies. I’ve pitched an idea to one of the larges companies about a device connected to an OBD port to track a driver’s habits and adjust premiums based on that. I was turned down, but I heard from an unofficial source that the company was already testing such a device. That was 15 years ago.

Privacy regulations? They don’t know how to handle all the data? They realized they’d have to triple rates based on the actual data they were receiving?

Maybe the insurance cooperatives might. And then the private ones might alter strategies to compete.

I haven’t heard the alternative candidates talk about how they’ll fight for our privacy.

That’s just giving up your rights from the get go. They can get a warrant to compel the fingerprint.

In this computer age, warrant requests are a button press to send a docusign e-mail to a judge, who can click the sign button while he sips his cappuccino. Make them work for it.

It makes them more money. And most of their customers couldn’t even explain how their engine works. And if the customer had an actual choice they would have purchased a more expensive car without this tracking.

Garmin watch will track you with it’s own GPS and doesn’t need to sync with a phone.

For iphone brothers and sisters (courtsey of rpcameron)

You must be using an Android device. On the iPhone, 5 quick presses of the side/power button (or long-pressing power+volume) will bring up the Power Off/SOS menu; any future attempt to unlock will require the passcode. (Either action can be down without any screen interaction, meaning that you can enable this feature silently as soon as you feel it necessary.)

(Also to note for iPhones: if you choose a 7 digit or longer passcode, the entry field does not indicate how long the passcode is; the same is true if you choose an alphanumeric passcode.)

(Extra safety for those in the US if you are in a car, after doing the above stash your phone in the console/glove box; if it is within a sealed compartment not on your person additional cause/warrant is required to gain access to the device.)

Idk… you being forced to use your body against your will to reveal secret and private things sounds pretty awful to me

Hopefully it gets overturned and your compulsion to stick your finger on the devices requires a warrant.

I’m in partial agreement with @gomp@lemmy.ml, they should be allowed to take your fingerprint and then apply that fingerprint to a device. Or get a warrant to make you stick you finger on the device. Recording your fingerprint is just collecting data to investigate a crime, it generates a record. Sticking your finger on a device is making you participate in the investigation, and generates no investigative record other than “device did/didn’t unlock”.