Banning online anonymity tools like Tor won’t stop crime. It will only drive people underground and normalize government control over the internet

Banning online anonymity tools like Tor won’t stop crime. It will only drive people underground and normalize government control over the internet

Child abuse, terrorism, national security were always a good alibi for surveillance and control, while pedofiles, terrorists and criminals in the goverment, destroying the national security and basic rights, wishing us to eat cakes.

Does anyone really believe it was ever about protecting the kids? I thought it was super obvious it’s about mass surveillance. It’s so they can link a database of *exactly who is saying what. And then do something evil af with that info, yeah? It’s just being poorly framed as “protecting kids” so no one can object, then they look like they don’t “care about kids”. Even though there’s so much proof it doesn’t help kids. What would help kids is parents who are able to be with their kids, rather than have to work fingers to bone to just scrape by. They could do information packages for parents, informing them of the risks and how to mitigate, as has been done before. This empowers no one, even if you believe their whole diatribe.

Some government any day now: To fight CP, we are going to make children illegal.

If your neighbor wanted to hear all your phone calls, just to make sure you’re a safe neighbor to be around, people wouldn’t tolerate it. So they certainly shouldn’t tolerate the government wanting to see all your messages and what you’re talking about.

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The correct way to eliminate human trafficking and child abuse is capital controls. Bring the fucking bankers to heel. You don’t have the credibility to talk like this while you work hand-in-glove with skinsuits like Jamie Dimon and the coterie of coin operated policymakers that calls itself western democracy. So the intention is not to use credibility, but something much quicker.

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i mean its the guardian. i don’t know why i’m seeing it so much on lemmy lately.

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We USians often don’t realize that the Guardian is a right wing publication. A frustrating number of people in US circles (especially liberals who don’t know they aren’t leftists) think anything European/UK is ideal and that conservatives don’t have any influence there.

The Guardian is a left leaning publication, it’s the alternative to The Times which is more conservative and right leaning

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The fact that other publications are more right leaning than The Guardian doesn’t make it left leaning. It’s a liberal paper, supporting liberal positions and routinely expressing opposition to leftists like Corbyn. In my book, support for liberalism and opposition to leftism makes it a right wing publication.

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The biggest child abuser in this law is the government. All they are doing is using up all the loop holes in the UNCRC and human rights to manipulate their way into their “ultimate truth”.

It was never about child abuse. It is about eliminating competition of federated media.

It’s about surveillance. Federated services are not a threat to big tech since it’s so small

The corpos and the government lick each others boots - it’s a 2-way relationship. They care more about the abusers than the victims in this regard. Children is just a term designed to go against its populace, and more harm being done in the long run.

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Banning online anonymity tools like Tor won’t stop crime.

Prohibition has never been a deterrent to consumption. Laws and law enforcement do not prevent, they just prosecute. I do come down hard on the parental groups when it comes to the safety, security, and privacy of their children. Mandating laws that dole out heavy fines to parents for their unsupervised children’s online and offline activities would seem to me to be a good point to deviate from. However, we legislate to the lowest common denominator, and this gives governments the inroads they crave to keep tabs on their citizenry.

What I would like to hear are some solutions that protect the children, keep the terrorists at bay, and still has room for individual privacy, anonymity, and security. I certainly don’t want children to be involved with activities that will harm them. At the same time, I’d rather avoid a buccal cell cheek swab every time I want to see some flesh or engage in other adult only activities.

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