@privacyguides @privacy would really love to ditch my smartphone for a dumb phone. I’m skeptical that my calls would no longer be #E2EE I’ve seen the Punky phone that uses Pigeon for messaging but idk about that price 😅 Any thoughts? #privacy #signal
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Get a Pinephone, or a Fairphone with Ubuntu. More privacy and more features than dumb phones.
You can put Ubuntu on a fair phone?
Yes. https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/fp4/release/focal
You won’t get much privacy from a dumbphone.
I had the Punkt. and sold it. Things might be better now, but Signal had delays…up to 2 hours sometimes to receive a message.
KaiOS probably shares data (no proof or sources for this, just guessing). That is a large chunk of the available phones, depending on where you live.
Get a Pixel and run Graphene OS. Use Signal or similar for talk and text. That is better than a dumb phone
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Depends what you do on them. If it’s only to be reachable, then the only thing the carrier and 3-letters agencies can gather is your approximate position, what you say on the phone line and what you sent in text messages. Don’t say anything personal and sensitive, and they won’t have much to gather in the first place.
They don’t get the troves of info they can sucks from all the mobile apps, etc, which is way more than they could with dumb phones.
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we now know that third parties can install whatever app they want on your "smart"phone without even putting their hands on it.
They’re not comparable to the dumbPhones that don’t even have gps on them. Probably your service provider can still track you through towers (or the van parked there behind you can listen to your conversations) but without their cooperation nobody else can.
Doesn’t it also opt you out of the consumerist market by default. Compared to an iPhone user, you’re not an interesting ad target.
with a dumbPhone you’re not participating actively to data collection. Yes, there are still traces, but they’re not collected in your pocket in an accessible format.
@aba11 @privacyguides @privacy I know Pidgon is KDE Gear’s chat client (or GNOME World’s, I can’t remember), but which protocols does it support?
Pigeon is a fork of Signal only available on Punkt. devices https://github.com/Punkt-Tronics-AG/Pigeon
not to be confused with Pidgin Messenger https://pidgin.im/