What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I’m looking for:

  • Non-profit.
  • European-based if possible.
  • Paid is fine.
  • Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.

My reason to want non-profit is that it’s the best way to align mine and the provider’s incentives, I think. I’d consider for-profit as well, but it’s best if it’s a non-profit.

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don’t meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I’m donating to them, but I have my worries. I’m willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that’s not worth discussing.

Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?

But they are based in Australia correct? If I’m not mistaken, Australia has an incredibly bad anti privacy laws. I’d never rely on Australian digital services. No idea what the impact of having the EU users served by EU servers is though

Indeed they are. This obviously boil down to each individuals threat model. Mine i mostly: fuck big tech/corpos… I personally have no issue with Fastmail in the regard you mention. Either way, the data is stored in the EU: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmail-offers-eu-data-region/

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