What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I’m looking for:

  • Non-profit.
  • European-based if possible.
  • Paid is fine.
  • Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.

My reason to want non-profit is that it’s the best way to align mine and the provider’s incentives, I think. I’d consider for-profit as well, but it’s best if it’s a non-profit.

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don’t meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I’m donating to them, but I have my worries. I’m willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that’s not worth discussing.

Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?

posteo.de Mail, calendar, contacts. Wonderful.

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Thank you for the comment! This is the provider I went with in the end. In particular, I’ve liked:

  • They support inbound encryption with my public PGP key.
  • Very good docs, saying what exactly they do. I could read all the details I wanted to know.
  • Strong stance on open-source: “our product offering exclusively uses open source software and free protocols, for security reasons. We only use Javascript which has open source code.”
  • Sustainability, e.g. they only use permanent contracts for employees. (And many other points that resonated with me.)
  • They don’t have calling support, but I consider it even better actually, because I want my emails to be very reliable, cheap and de-coupled from the rest of things. Calling I can honestly self-host just fine, since I don’t have to worry much if stuff breaks or changes (as opposed to email, which would better be stable for me).

It’s a bit limiting that they don’t support an unlimited number of aliases, but at least they support 3 of them, and the “+” sign same as google and many others do.

They also offer 3 aliases as a base and you could add more for extra payment. They’re pretty cheap too.

In wish they would allow custom domains.

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