What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I’m looking for:
- Non-profit.
- European-based if possible.
- Paid is fine.
- Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.
My reason to want non-profit is that it’s the best way to align mine and the provider’s incentives, I think. I’d consider for-profit as well, but it’s best if it’s a non-profit.
So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don’t meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I’m donating to them, but I have my worries. I’m willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.
Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that’s not worth discussing.
Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?
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For me personally, this quote was insightful:
That being said, man, you’ve just paid them. Of course I’d also not just jump overboard all of a sudden.
Oh I believe them. But I also see that he built a fairly successful company focused on privacy (and security) and despite everything he has done lately they, the company, are listening to users (albeit quite slow) and they have no obligations to investors and that is one of their more important premises. So while I agree that Yen really needs to go, I still like Proton as a whole and I sincerely hope that whoever comes after Yen will be better and not worse than him…