Hey everyone,
I know there are a lot of questions about best email providers, but they usually boil down to general questions about privacy and reliability. I have specific questions that I could not find answers to.
I’ve had a Proton Duo plan for my wife and me for about 2 years now. My wife has low tolerance for tech that is not user friendly and works easily. It took a while to migrate all our emails and passwords to Proton and a lot or accounts to passmail aliases, but now we are happy with how the service works.
We both also have our own domains for our main email, and I recently bought another domain to migrate our aliases to. The reason behind this is to ease future migrations if whatever service we use enshitifies. I know that privacy is reduced by using my own domain for aliases, but it’s a consequence I accept to avoid being tied to a single service and to make migration easier in the future.
For that reason, I’ve been burying my head in the sand about what has been happening at Proton. However, with recent news of Proton’s partnership with ETH Zurich and of Proton re-evaluating employee performance based on their AI usage, I can no longer look away.
So here is the ask. I want to migrate to one or more services to specifically replace the functionality I described above. Here are the features that are important to me:
- Services that support multi-user accounts, where I can be the admin and manage our domains.
- Ability to assign domains for specific user accounts.
- Ease of use for users to create aliases on the fly within the password manager.
- European hosted and privacy focused, with good encryption.
- Preferably open source clients.
My domains are hosted by Infomaniak, and I’ve considered them, Tuta and Mailbox.org for email providers. Not sure about the best alias generator, but I heard good things about addy.io
I already self-host a lot of services, so for password management, I was thinking about Vaultwarden with an integration to an alias generator. For the few services I host that are accessible outside my network, I use a reverse proxy (NPM), with Authentik for authentication. I am thinking about setting up NetBird as well.
Finally, I am ok paying a reasonable amount for the services.
If I am way off base, I am also happy to hear suggestions about better ways to set things up.
Thanks in advance
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They seem really interesting. I’m curious about the pattern-rewrite part. I currently do a similar thing with filters on proton (i.e. anything not sent to prefix-* goes to spam), but the downside is that anytime I need to actually send an email from one of these, I have to add it to the limited list of addresses. This is the only part I’d want from one of these masking services, being able to send/respond without having to manually add each address.
Do you happen to know if this is possible with migadu? E.g. I set up the pattern for shop-*@… If I want to send an email from shop-bla@… Do I also need to add that specific one as an address? Similarly, if i get an email sent to shop-bla@…, can I respond if that’s not specifically added as an address or do I need to add it first?
No worries if you don’t know, just curious - thanks.
With Migadu you can send email as anything you want @yourdomain, as long as you use the correct credentials (user+password) for SMTP. You don’t have to set up anything in advance, you just modify your “From” in the mail client. The “From” addresses don’t have to bear any relation to any alias or pattern or existing mailbox, just have to be @ the domain associated with the SMTP login. It’s entirely your problem if the address doesn’t make sense and whether the recipient will be able to reply.
There are mail clients that know how to work with this and let you set up multiple sender “identities” that are basically bookmarked “From” addresses. Migadu’s webmail also has this feature (not sure what webmail app it is, HTML source code says “SnappyMail”). But as long as the email client lets you edit the “From” field you can always change this on the fly.
That’s awesome, thank you.