Some people say it’s really privacy-giving and that you should use it as a privacy alternative. Others say it’s alao on the big tech side. What’s going on with telegram, really?

Every text you send through Telegram is stored in plaintext. Telegram and authorities can access that without your knowledge. Also it will get leaked in a breach someday.

Now you decide for yourself if it’s private.

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False. If you want to tell how things works, get your facts right!

All data sent to Telegram’s servers will be encrypted once they reach the servers. With other words, the messages and media and other files, will be sent in “plain text” over HTTPS only when using Cloud Chat. In Secret Chat, MTProto is (based on how E2EE works) as safe as what Signal Protocol is.

But nothing will be stored in plain text, no matter what you use (Cloud Chat or Secret Chat).

But(!) since the source code for MTProto is closed, we don’t know how it really works, and if we can trust their FAQ or not.

I trusted Telegram at first, but I don’t trust it 100% anymore (still better than SMS). Am using my own Snikket server these days. Much safer with a lot of 😌😊😍😃 moments, even today, maybe a year later. Especially with OMEMO (Signal Protocol).

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Woah, thanks.

What should I use, then? Because, from what I seen, Signal is US hosted, and this isn’t very good to privacy.

Signal is well designed enough that Jurisdiction doesn’t matter much. The only things you’ll find that can br arguably better than signal are fully decentralized apps that go over TOR like Briar or Simplex but these have a lot less usage because they’re so slow and terrible for your battery.

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So, no Whatsapp alternative? Sorry, I’m kinda slow.

If you don’t understand the cryptography enough that you have to ask about telegram, just use Signal. It’s the best designed app for the security of most people, it doesn’t have any privacy/security footgun, and has a pretty good threat model while not cutting corners on usability.

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Oh, thanks.

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