Cities Panic Over Having to Release Mass Surveillance Recordings | naked capitalism
www.nakedcapitalism.comTime to cheer a legal win against the surveillance state, here the use of massive spycams by a vendor called Flock.
This gets us to the central problem of today’s surveillance state. No one running the cameras wants to be observed. One reason that city officials object to releasing Flock data, for example, must that they themselves are among the recorded. The cameras are on them too; they too can be tracked. Everything means everything for these everywhere cameras.
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There’s a saying where everyone’s rights only extend until it infringes upon that of others. here you can’t record me in public without my written permission, just as I can’t record you. Similarly:
you can take photos all you want until unconsenting people are not visible on it. you have the right to take photos. until it infringes upon the basic human right to privacy of others. here in Europe people have more rights than just being allowed to stay silent.
what? are you arguing that the weather has a right to privacy??
that’s just commercial entities… no private information is exposed there. for air traffic, right there are private jets, but like public servants, that should just be an additional category of people who have less rights because of their power to keep in check. also the way air traffic coordination works it cannot really be restricted.
if. but better they just not go up, but instead, down.
you know, somewhat me too. like the court room recordings. but I would only want it released if I agree to it, and otherwise there can still be written transcripts, redacted from private info at the few points where needed. but only if the person is not a public servant or otherwise wielding a lot of power (e.g. through highly outstanding wealth).
yeah but the way GPS works, it does not expose any information about the user. devices just receive precise timestamp and sat constellation info, GPS itself does not send any information.
it was not that long!
Sorry for double post but here are some more, I think their great, YouTube channels that give more opinion and point of view from an American point of view and why I think there should be no expectations of privacy in a public space.
https://youtube.com/@firstamendmentprotectionagency
https://youtube.com/@thearmedfisherman
https://youtube.com/@lacklustermedia
https://youtube.com/@dreadingcap
https://youtube.com/@thevillainscrime
https://youtube.com/@jamesfreeman1
https://youtube.com/@amagansettpress
https://youtube.com/@kultnews
There are many more. I do not wish to give this up because the person being filmed doesn’t like it. They should act better and be a better person.
The article is about United States town and our laws here me being from the US. Maybe that is most of the heart of our difference of opinions. It sounds as though you are from Europe. And as I stated you are welcome to go elsewhere as you already are. If I happen to go over there I shall respect your laws and not record people. But me being here in the US I can very well record you in a public park I do not need your okay to do so, the news can also record you on the side of the street without your consent. As I’ve said I’m not sure I’m willing to give that right up. Insert typically American rally around the constitution and guns and fuck yeah team America bullshit.
But its also the beauty of having different countries or with in the US each states has its own laws, as I or you can move to suit our own societal needs and wants without infringement on others. Well hopefully. Its not perfect but its all we got. Or possibly Democratically change said laws. Good luck changing the US constitution. I really suggest watching some of the channels I posted.
I posted all that info ( you left off some of the public available info I listed) because it is public info and while I don’t know how making said cameras open to the public would make the world better. I’m sure someone smarter than me can find a way. Just like they found a way to make everything I listed great. Just like how the public makes Foss software great. If we make it, it should be public so the public can make sure it’s used for good not evil. It should not be held behind government closed doors. We shouldn’t be fearful of information. How long did they take to make GPS fully available to the public.
I shall respect your right to privacy where you are from and I shall try my best to stop American imperialism ( free Palestine, fuck Israel and Slava Ukraini) infringement on that right. But I do ask you to not to infringe on my rights here afforded to me by my laws. Guns, fuck yeah. Though I do ask if this Orange wana be King overstays his term limit and doesn’t get the fuck out come 2028 I hope you come help us overthrow his pedo ass.
Hope we can agree to disagree. With love stay safe out in this chaotic work. Edit world.