End of September, Switzerland will vote for E-ID. A big threat for our privacy as it will widely used for tons of new use cases.

Behind the government pitch of an “open source project, completely optional” hides big tech industry… Which will make it mandatory to access their services.

What are your thoughts on that ?

#Switzerland #Privacymatters

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It’s not real democracy as the government motivate people to vote yes or no, and the government is completely corrupted. But yeah, it looks close to a democracy

Who is “the government” in Switzerland exactly? I see people in favour and against it in “the government” of Switzerland. Or is “the government” just the politicians that disagree with you?

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I meant the politicians:)

You are not required to vote. You will not be punished if you abstain from your vote. You are completely free to chose “yes” or “no” based on your own judgings.

Isn’t that exactly what democracy is about?

Who decides what I’m voting yes or no on?

There are two basic scenarios:

  1. The legislative authority is drafting a new law. This law can be challenged and will then be voted on (this is the case for the E-ID law)
  2. A suggestion for a new law can be raised by citizens. This law will then be voted on.
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The thing is plenty of politics are paid by insurances and other big companies. Those people influence most of the voters which makes it unbalanced

Indeed, the lobbying is nasty and the party financing is not as transparent as it could be.

But discrediting the whole system as undemocratic because of those “minor flaws” is just not fair IMO.

I posted above already, but repeating for visibility. There is an initiative in the works right now to combat this: https://www.no-lobbying.ch/

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Maybe not all the system is corrupted, but when I found that Switzerland just follow the rules defined by the open wallet forum in this case. I’ve doubts

Do you have the same issue with the W3C or the Wifi Alliance?

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I don’t

Why not? They are mostly made up of corporations.

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ATM I don’t feel they’re a menace for my privacy

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You’re just spoiled.

Switzerland is the only country that I know has direct democracy. The others have indirect democracies where you vote politicians (or parties here in Slovakia) and they decide on your behalf what they want.

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Agee there’s kinda direct democracy. But check out, its public. How many top level politics are paid by insurances ? 50-80 people ?^^

For me a democracy is a government not funded by private companies.

Then do something about it: https://www.no-lobbying.ch/

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This is so cool. Thank you for the link

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For me a democracy is a government funded by funds that are not stolen away by an Eurofund embezzlement mafia.

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