Let me edit in one more relevant info:
I don’t use it, but my contacts may or may not use it.

For those who don’t know, Beeper is an app that aims to unite all your messaging apps into one. To do this, it makes use of Matrix, bridging all those services together. So far, so cool.

However, since different services often use different encryption protocols, messages between those services and Matrix have to be decrypted on Beepers’ servers, before being re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient.

They are completely open and transparent about this (which I can very much respect), and state that chats on their servers are encrypted, so they can’t read them.

Still though, decrypting mid-transit kinda throws the whole end-to-end part out of the window.

Some might say that everyone needs to decide for themselves if that’s a problem. But the issue with that is that if you decide to use Beeper, you also decide that every person you chat with is okay with it. Not very cool in my book.

That’s where the question asking for independant audits comes in, because I certainly don’t have the expertise to look at their code. If everything is safe from attackers, then cool.

But me for example, I switched to Signal specifically for verifiable and proper End-to-End Encryption, so chatting with someone who uses Signal through Beeper kinda defeats the point.

Because, how does Beeper even get what they need to decrypt a message I send to a Beeper user?

I don’t consent to a third party decrypting my messages, simply because one of my contacts uses their service. That is fundamentally wrong in my opinion.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Wait, what? What did he do? (Aside from selling the company, I mean.)

Hot Saucerman
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The sale of Pebble was supposed to include the developers jobs. They found out very late in the game that this wasn’t true. He screwed his devs on the way out. Basically said “fuck your job, good luck.”. Real shitty way to handle it, imo.

Coupled with the fact that it meant all real support for Pebble was gone as well, it really was about Micigovsky making out with a bunch of money and saying “good luck, I dont actually care what happens” to his devs and the people who bought a Pebble.

The way it shook out just doesn’t make me trust him. I think he would do the same thing again, sell to a more scummy third party who will strip Beeper for profit when he isn’t making enough money.

I honestly distrust their business model as a successful long term one, based on his past.

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That tells you all you need to know about the new employer already. Pass.

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