Paul Cantrell (@inthehands@hachyderm.io)
hachyderm.ioSo…there is a concerted campaign, with Musk as its mouthpiece, to discredit Signal and get people to switch to Telegram. It’s disinformation, but there’s also useful information in it. The useful information is that a hideous, powerful, right-wing crank — or whoever’s yanking his chain — really, really wants people to use Telegram.
We’ve long known Telegram’s security is weak. But now, in light of this new information, we should move forward assuming that Telegram is actively compromised.
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telegram is the real FUD here. its closed, not encrypted by default and all messages go through a centralized server.
Not e2e encrypted ≠ not encrypted.
Client is open source and you can use your own client with custom functionality if you like. I imagine nothing stops anyone from adding their own e2e implementations on top of it.
SSL on websites also is encryption. Still you can post your precious pictures “encrypted” via SSL for the whole world to see. I think everyone knew what was meant with encryption in this context.
I think not.
i know but neither encryption, nor foss clients matter much if it has to go through a closed server. thats kind of half the point of encrypting stuff. at least telegram supports it but cmon.
its like saying facebook is private because your browser is foss and you use https.
Anything goes through closed servers. Even more, serverless chat protocols tend to go through multiple users PCs (they are not open to you).
I’m pretty sure telegram doesn’t support plaintext transfers.
I didn’t call telegram private.