The state’s monopoly on identity excludes vulnerable people from jobs, housing, healthcare and more.

Immigration is a complex issue. I think the problem is no one wants to spend money on those people. You are talking about giving them free stuff with no incentive to work. Sure you could just take it away after a period of time but at the end of the day there is a better solution.

What would be ideal is that companies could have process for legally bring people to work. They could have contracts where a person works for a set period of time and after that time they are a citizen. The key would be to protect the workers rights via OSHA and other labor laws. This would especially be needed as they would be on a contract.

Forcing companies to feed and house the labor they import is nothing like giving anyone “free stuff”.

I am absolutely not talking about “free stuff”. They have to prove they have a job lined-up to get a work Visa; Proof they also have housing lined up and the ability to buy groceries should also be a part of that, and on the employer. It’s the would-be employer who is claiming to “need” them, after all.

I agree citizenship should be guaranteed after a set period of time, but I’ll settle for them not breaking the law during that time. There are plenty of legal ways to support onesself and not “be a burden to society” outside of normal employment.

The path to citizenship for people already here should be more straight-forward/much the same as well. I would argue that its harder to sneak into this country than to enter it legally. Seems to me that those people want it more, and have demonstrated they are willing to endure hardship to get here. “Free stuff” for them? Not available legally already, but they shouldn’t be criminalized just for being here and needing food and/or a place to stay. No one chooses to stay in a shelter “to scam the system”.

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