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Why repost this with the sensationalist headline but not include the context provided in the comments by @artyom@piefed.social

"The author omitted the complete statement from Reddit:

Hi everyone,

No, Proton did not knowingly block journalists’ email accounts. Our support for journalists and those working in the public interest has been demonstrated time and again through actions, not just words.

In this case, we were alerted by a CERT that certain accounts were being misused by hackers in violation of Proton’s Terms of Service. This led to a cluster of accounts being disabled.

Because of our zero-access architecture, we cannot see the content of accounts and therefore cannot always know when anti-abuse measures may inadvertently affect legitimate activism.

Our team has reviewed these cases individually to determine if any can be restored. We have now reinstated 2 accounts, but there are other accounts we cannot reinstate due to clear ToS violations.

Regarding Phrack’s claim on contacting our legal team 8 times: this is not true. We have only received two emails to our legal team inbox, last one on Sep 6 with a 48-hour deadline. This is unrealistic for a company the size of Proton, especially since the message was sent to our legal team inbox on a Saturday, rather than through the proper customer support channels.

The situation has unfortunately been blown out of proportion without giving us a fair chance to respond to the initial outreach."


Keytwo is my all time favourite phone, ive not found something that is as good as it was, so I’d be interested in if you have any success with this.

Others phones with keyboard you could look into are Unihertz titan and titan slim. I owned a titan and it was a pretty good phone although somewhat large, I know there is a small community of people doing things with it but I could never get my bootloader to unlock.

The titan slim is a copy of the keytwo form factor and I have been very tempted but never got around to trying one out.

Fx tec pro also exists but they seem over priced and out dated, not sure on how receptive they are to new ROMs or if there is even a community behind this one.

I’m going to be watching This project going forward and if it seems decent may try switching to using a data sim in a hotspot box in my bag and just use this as a primary device.


I personally don’t even find it that annoying as it takes around 30 seconds more to log in via a browser for me and I barely ever use it anyway. I’m more annoyed that my bank has the audacity to think they can dictate what I use on my phone citing “login blocked due to custom ROM” or something similar when I last tried to use the app.

Fuck banks.


Ive used it for around a year and a half and never had any issues. My banking app stopped working after about 8 months but I just log in via a browser and it hasn’t effected my life at all.

For anyone considering the move here is a list of bank apps and their current working status as I know that is a big consideration people worry over.


What’s reddit? Is that like a new alternative to Lemmy? ;P



These devices aren’t even constructed to last 7 years. I don’t see that either of those things are worth £600 personally.


Fuck all that noise, Pixel 6a + graphene £130. Why waste so much money!?


I couldn’t tell you. The page / list was made for graphene and I don’t know the technical differences between running that and lineage + micro g so not sure if the same list could apply. Sorry.


Yeah i understand what you are saying and that is why everyone’s individual needs come into play.

I don’t know what country you are in and that can obviously affect things, my banks 2FA is an SMS. I have options in terms of the other things you mentioned, where as you may not have.



“Making day to day life functionally impossible” is a bit drastic. I think that depends on each individual person, their needs both in terms of banking and privacy.

My banking app doesn’t work on Graphene but I also couldn’t care less. I can just as easily log in to my account via my browser on my phone if I need to do something and it isn’t exactly hard, it takes all of 30 seconds more than using an app.

I realise in some other countries you don’t have that option but were I in the same situation for me that would be enough to change banks, I don’t want to be forced to use an app for anything.

Everyone has different lengths they are willing to go to to protect their privacy and I’m willing to make my life slightly harder where as others may not but I think saying it makes life functionally impossible is a bit of an overstatement and it needs to be judged based on individual needs.

There is a list of what banking apps work and what don’t.I’ll post it in a top level comment for visibility.