Telegram, while often hyped as high privacy/security got popular because it was/is fully featured and isn’t Google or Facebook. That’s it
It’s less invasive, less annoying, and can do all the stuff like gifs and stickers. So it was very easy to get people onto compared to pretty much anything that was actually private or secure.
Once enough people started using it, it snowballed into its own monolith of bloat.
If you can unlock the bootloader and change roms, they aren’t bad at all.
Otherwise, they’re a hard pass for me. Mind you, it isn’t like they’re any worse than phones made elsewhere as regards invasive practices. But if I’m going to be mined for data I would actually prefer it be for profit than whatever a government wants. Since the governments that are acting invasively other than china aren’t doing so as extremely, if I had to use a locked down device, it wouldn’t be chinese.
Ask the woman and her daughter that got charged after anti abortion laws got passed and were dumb enough to use Facebook for communication.
Even assuming that MasterCard is fully intending to keep everything secure (which is impossible to guarantee), you never know how it’s going to be used later on.
I mean, ffs, it’s already known that multiple US agencies just buy data and use it for their purposes. It’s a damn sure bet that every damn country does something similar.
De-anonymizing data is a thing. You get enough data points, and everything is right there.
You don’t persuade them. They’ve already made their decision. Now you have to make yours. Their reasons for not wanting to switch are just as valid as yours for wanting to.
So, you either switch and accept that some of the people in your life don’t actually care enough to come with you, or you’re the one that has to adapt to multiple apps to communicate with others. That’s really what it boils down to. Most people don’t care about the matter, and there’s a segment of people in most of our lives that don’t care about us if there’s any inconvenience involved.
Some of them made alternate suggestions, which means they’re willing to go through some inconvenience for you, just not the specific inconvenience of having an app that only you and they will be using.
Despite now having storage space for multiple messaging apps, people resist the idea of having more than whatever arbitrary number they’ve decided doesn’t work. In some cases, that number may be one. And the truth is that remembering who is connected via what app/service is a pain in the ass if there’s enough people in your life. Some people can’t handle that memory issue and are just going to refuse outright out of necessity.
So, stop trying to change their minds and seek compromise. If they’re willing to switch to telegram, you can at least have some degree of encryption, so go with that for anyone that’s expressed willingness. Let that core group become the reason for anyone else to join in.
Unless you just want to play hardball and refuse to communicate with anyone on anything but your choice. There will be some that cave and join in. But you’d be amazed how many people and which people don’t really want to talk to you enough to do so. But you’ll have a small group of people that are now using it with you. You’ll have to help them get set up, and be prepared for the inevitable tech support you’re volunteering to provide, as well as the need to guide them through the learning curve of it.
There’s no reason you can’t open source anti spam. The only reasons not to do so are that it’s either absurdly to bypass if it’s known, which makes it useless, or if they don’t want it visible.
Why wouldn’t they want extra eyes on it? That’s how a lot of vulnerabilities get found, people actually checking the code and testing it.
That suggests some other reason, and they haven’t said (that I’m aware of). Since that means that part can’t be trusted, you can’t trust the rest of it either. That isn’t to say you can’t choose to use it, but you’re using it blind, which makes it no more secure or private than telegram or any other options.
You’ve never run into obscure but vital software being run on old and unsupported versions of windows that also can’t be moved to newer hardware. It’s a niche use case, but when you consider that includes some medical equipment, that niche is way more important than it seems. There’s still plenty of things running custom software that can’t be changed without a fully rebuilt program that could cost enough to make it impossible for smaller organizations to feasibly do so.
Besides, it isn’t like this project takes anything away from any others. The devs wouldn’t just magically shift to something less niche. If they were interested in something else, they’d already be doing it. Whatever they might move to would also be a niche interest.
Ngl, I’m very surprised and very pleased proton has lasted. They seem to be on track to remaining sustainable and true to their stated goals.
I haven’t run their paid tier VPN yet, because of the linux issues, but the free tier always worked well when I was between providers and deciding who to go with.
I mean, not really.
Which standard are they going to be forced to use? What infrastructure? What encryption? Are they going to be forced to develop apps for every platform?
The best you can hope to expect is apps using the same standard being compatible. Xmpp, matrix, whisper, whatever. Even matrix bridges don’t really fix compatibility across standards very well.
It’s nice to think that anyone anywhere, could expect to install any app and communicate with anyone else and maintain encryption as well as full privacy. But as far as anyone I’ve ever seen talk about it that’s actually trained in the technology behind it all, it isn’t possible unless there’s a single, enforced standard in use.
Does it suck to have to deal with multiple apps? Hell yes. But I also don’t like the idea of being forced to use whatever compromise protocol would make it realistic. I’d rather have a dozen apps with no single gatekeeper between them.