I think this is the part I was missing thanks

OP literally said they were looking for APs to use with their router/firewall

At that point why not just use a ubiquiti/microtik ap though?

APs don’t run openwrt though. Openwrt is for a home router/firewall and AP combo. AP is just the wifi part and plugs into a router

All these openwrt folks have never hears of opnsense or what?

Mahoney, I knew it