Yup, the other side is pretty counterproductive with saying the project is dehumanizing etc. They’re absurdly exaggerating.

It wasn’t just a report tho, it’s a PR that could’ve been merged with a single click

Open mindedness is a key factor for success (especially in open source). Inclusivity demonstrates open mindedness. The fact that the lead dev goes out of his way to prevent such a minor change (it’s not even like people demanded a strict CoC or something) is a bad signal

Open mindedness is a key factor for success (especially in open source). Inclusivity demonstrates open mindedness. The fact that the lead dev goes out of his way to prevent such a minor change (it’s not even like people demanded a strict CoC or something) is a bad signal

I agree. Html could also be compared to a config file. Only parsed; it doesn’t provide new instructions (unlike python etc)

Oh youre right I was completely wrong

What are you talking about? Your comment isn’t relevant at all. Next time read more carefully

Jami is broken

It’s really not. Requires phone number and is centralized

Doesn’t work, never will. Partly because both have ro be online to chaz

With SimpleX each server is replacable/fungible

Just send them the code. It’s okay if the channel over which they the receive the code is insecure

Just don’t use anything proprietary like Sync or Connect

Your private key stays at the client, the server doesn’t get it. Verifiable by the source code of your client

Your client encrypts and decrypts everything, so it is actually not a privacy concern regarding message content when we don’t know what the server does.

F-Droid doesn’t want to host Molly because Signal doesn’t want any forks on F-Droid. Seriously, that’s the whole reason. Molly devs would be fine with it.

Molly is actually reproducible and has a fully FOSS version, so it is trustworthy.

You’re welcome.

A cross-platform desktop client recently got released. Synchronization with the mobile app is not yet supported tho.

Yes, to first connect to someone you share a qr code with them or send them a link. The medium in which you share the link does not have to be secure, it is only to make the first connection between the two of you.

Here’s a high-level overview explaining how it is possible that there are no user identifiers. Basically, with each contact you agree on different servers which relay your messages. You get separate communication tunnels for every contact. And these tunnels can be replaced by other tunnels at any time.

Ok…

It tries its best to be user friendly tho, that’s a main concern of the dev. You should hear him talk in the main support group, he’s really good.

You can also connect to the dev directly to express any concerns or ask questions. He will actually listen to you and shift his focus if multiple people tell him the same thing.

However, the software is only a few years old (much younger than all the other established messengers) and may not be ready for public use yet, but surely in the future.

Unlike P2P, messenges are sent over easily replacable relay servers so both parties don’t have to be online at the same time to exchange messenges.

SimpleX is special because it is the only messenger that has no permanent user identifiers whatsoever. Not even a randomly generated string of characters and numbers. This implies a LOT more privacy and security, especially for metadata-protection.

The server of Signal for example can’t read your messages, but they know who sent how many messages at what time to which people. They know your entire graph of social connections. SimpleX does not.

Here’s a comparison with other messengers: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/SIMPLEX.md#comparison-with-other-protocols

SimpleX is great, better than all P2P messengers

Inb4 aNoNiMiTy iS nOt tHe sAmE aS pRiVaCy

You want privacy and also use instagram and discord? Not even considering to switch? I guess you are mentally impaired in some way

Why do you use Tor? Just use regular Firefox, it’s much faster. Doesn’t have all that privacy-bloat, you don’t need that with Windows anyways

SimpleX is not purely P2P as there are servers that forward the messages. The battery consumption is still too high with SimpleX, but that can and is being worked on

Open source gives you all the freedoms that free software gives. So it factually equates. You are also spreading the misinformation that F-Droid guarantees that the software there is 100% libre even when it is an external repo. Totally wrong.

You are trying to tell me that caring about free software is misinformation now?

When did I say that? Are you stupid?

You can’t convince people when you are just repeating what Stallman says without understanding it.

You are seriously lost. Stop spreading misinformation

Are you autistic?

Sorry, but an external repo added to F-Droid does nothing for your security. Even proprietary garbage can be on F-Droid as an added repo.

He is dodgy af. Doesn’t want any Signal forks (Molly being the only one tolerated) and won’t let them connect to the server. That’s why the open source version LibreSignal was shut down. He also doesn’t want Signal to be on F-Droid, a store which only allows 100% free/open source software.

Take everything coming out of his mouth with a grain of salt.

The site is https://simplex.chat . It uses it’s own simplex protocol. There are no permanent user identifiers with SimpleX which gives a lot more privacy and independence. Here’s a comparison: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/SIMPLEX.md#comparison-with-other-protocols

Definetely check out SimpleX Chat before you try to convince them about Matrix. SimpleX is actually the best when it comes to privacy and especially metadata-protection, which I heard Matrix handles especially badly.

Also, on SimpleX you have no permanent user identifiers at all and users only use (optionally) self-hostable servers to forward messages, not to register an account there.