You mentioned almost nothing? Tuta can even more easily change their privacy policy. Not saying Tuta isn’t the right choice, but it’s worse than a lot of people make you think it is

Tuta is located in Germany which has more power to look into your data than the Swiss government, but it’s mhe.

Also what separation of power do you mean? Proton is also owned by a non profit and Tuta is just a Gmbh which is owned by two individuals it seems. Changing something regarding the non profit or the structure is pretty hard to do

Tuta is however more open with that you can find their annual report or at least part of it if you want.

Many of those are caused by people having insecure accounts without enabling 2FA etc. And there is a lot of money involved, even the top TF2 accounts are worth tens of thousands of euro’s

Well fair, I just found the Medium article to be more complete than most info that is shared around, but I already assumed that it was not complete. At the end the day I personally don’t have issues with Proton currently and they are still the best thing I can use since it’s located in a country like Switzerland. But I advice everybody to use their own custom domain so they can move whenever needed.

I am inclided to agree with you that Andy Yen is just an idiot and that Proton is doing it’s best to stay natural and make the most of the situation. However their communications team is pretty lackluster.

On another note, the article I linked is an opinion, so while it is laid out pretty well it is probably not telling the entire story. I have a custom domain on my Proton account so I can Switch if it ever goes to hell. I would advice you to do the same.

Tuta is located in Germany which is part of the fourteen eyes intelligence aliance. Germany also had a conservative party and a far right party win the elections.

Not saying Tuta isn’t good or anything, just wanted to share the info I have about it which might be relevant.

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Tldr, the CEO is an idiot, Proton is bad at (social media) and there is a cultural difference between how people in the US look at politics

The whole 88 thing is not generally know except probably in Germany and the US.

He is an idiot yes, but the internet is also making it seem like if you agree with one statement you agree with all statements of that person/party which is just wrong.

Always use your own domain on Proton and others. The laws in Germany aren’t as friendly as the one in Swiss so that can be causing issues as well.

And considering a lot of people on the internet make comments without being fully informed, the backlash is probably huge.

Hate is spreading a lot quicker than the truth.

However, the original Twitter post and their doubling down are just stupid responses and they shouldn’t have made them.

They are not allowed to just share data from users in other countries where privacy laws exist. It depends a bit on how GDPR is written in the specific country you reside and it it is enough, but generally they should be asking for censent if they try and access it.

Sadly we won’t have any idea when they try and access it, but this is the exact reason why businesses in NL like accounting firms (not bookkeeping firms) need to have their data in datacenter in NL to precent morons like this to access your data.

Pretty sure either Google E2E is non existent or it is alreayd opened up for the UK government or it is being opened in the future. I wonder if Proton is going to need to comply with this.