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NYM caught my eye a while back. I’ve been keeping an eye on their progress. I’m really intrigued by their mixnet tech. I’ll let 'em cook for a bit, but I think they are on to something.

In their TOS: “XVII. Dispute resolution by arbitration”

“Binding Arbitration. – you – waive your and NYM’s respective rights to have any and all Disputes arising from or related to these T&Cs resolved in a court.”

A big red flag.

irmadlad
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“Binding Arbitration. – you – waive your and NYM’s respective rights to have any and all Disputes arising from or related to these T&Cs resolved in a court.”

This seems rather standard leagalize. What are your concerns if you can share them.

Arbitration typically tends not to be as neutral as a court. A court will always look how laws apply in a particular case. Arbitration may not do that. Arbitration takes power away from the consumer. Arbitration is not a court of law. It’s a dispute between an individual and a company. Don’t know how things are in Switzerland in this regard but I fear that it’s not as neutral as a court of law would be. Especially as the arbitrator is pre selected by the company.

Also in their TOS “No Class Arbitrations, Class Actions or Representative Actions.” i.e. if the company would screw over dozens of people they can only complain one by one even if they are all the same case. If a class action or class arbitration could occur the company screwing over dozens of people it could be viewed as a whole hence it might be determined that what they are doing is systematic, and if it would be in court it could be seen as illegal.

Disclaimer: I’m not a lawyer or any kind of legal expert.

slazer2au
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Agreements via arbitration don’t effect other disagreements unlike court decisions.

Also depending how tin hat you want to go, arbitration orgs are paid for by the corporation so the arbitrator has a conflict of interest to keep the business of arbitration.

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Why would anyone pay $13/month when the best in class gold standard privacy VPN Mullvad is $5?

I think they basically are signalling they are not interested in month to month customers

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wtf is a NYMToken?

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