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I sent it from my tmo number to my GV number. I can do the inverse as a test too but I don’t think anything will change.



I texted myself “fuck this” and it went through no problem.


I just tested this myself between tmo and GV and no censorship here.


This right here. I deleted my account so long ago that I don’t even remember when I decided I was done with it.


It’s not collecting anything. Your phone stores a hash of your finger prints and uses that to verify it’s you. If you already use biometrics then your phone already has that hash. And while we can never be 100% certain, I’m fairly certain that android doesn’t upload that hash anywhere, it stays local to your phone.


No it’s not. If you think it is, you don’t understand what it’s saying as well as you think you do.


This right here. OP is freaking out over a nothing burger.


Can we cut out the hyperbole. They aren’t requiring it and a hash of your finger prints are already stored on your phone if you use biometrics for other things. This email is likely meant as a reminder, especially for people who may not lock their phone down as much as they should and others (likely kids) can get access and spend money they wouldn’t be able to if it was locked down.


Because we have stopped teaching people anything in school. I learned critical thinking, civics, etc. Most people don’t. Schools just push kids through because the funding isn’t there and a lot of parents are assholes who don’t want to raise their own kids nor teach them anything. They let the schools do it and the teachers don’t have the time nor the resources to make up for shit parenting.

We need to stop infantilizing people. Yes, corporations are at fault but so are the people who fall for the bullshit. It’s not Pepsi or McDonald’s fault that people are overweight, it’s their own fault and their parents and society for not teaching them what’s what.

This shit is why I don’t interact much on social media as a whole. It’s full of jackasses who think that we should be basically living under a dictator because most people can’t tie their own shoes without help. People can handle a lot more than you think but they have to be taught how.

I say the above as someone who questions how most people are walking and breathing at the same time. Generations have let future generations down and the masses keep getting dumber because we let them.


Okay, now I’m blocking you because you have no idea what words actually mean.

You have no idea which end is up, nor what you don’t actually understand.

Have a nice life now.


You’re infantilizing people. Instead of treating them like toddlers, maybe we should be educating people and teaching them some critical thinking skills.

You may know how the net works but you apparently can’t read well because the last sentence of that comment is probably the most important.


Exactly. And you can’t be surprised when a company that also runs a search engine and ad network stores that data for other purposes.

I rarely jump in on things like this because of the lack of understanding of how things actually work as well as the inevitable responses like from OP and someone else I just responded to.

To repeat for those who may not get it just yet. Private browsing on FF and incognito mode on chrome are specifically for use when you use a shared pc or someone else’s system to check your email or whatever. It’s always been designed to protect locally not from the greater web.

I don’t remember ever seeing or hearing anything from Google about this mode hiding data from them.


You need to step back and actually read what I am saying. You need to also learn a lot more about how the internet works.

Again. Read my entire comment and then give it time to sink in.



I think you misread me.

I never thought that these modes were protecting me from anything except those who shared the same pc. Apparently I am the only one who understands the way the internet works and that nothing you do or any software you run on your system can stop every website and server you interact with or that passes on your data packets to the next server from logging everything it can about you.

How do people think that sites like reddit cross check and correlate data from users to find those with multiple accounts that are attempting to evade bans? There is so much data that we don’t even know we are creating.

I’m all for privacy and anonymity when and where it makes sense but it seems like people here have no idea what the difference between the two are and just how difficult it is and how much extra friction it brings to attempt to be completely anonymous and private via a system designed to connect people.


Am I the only one who never thought that incognito mode or the equivalent on FF was protecting me from anything other than anyone else who may use the same pc? I don’t share my pc with anyone so I only use those modes when I think a website is acting up because of previously stored cookies, credentials or my various script blockers.


I know. But we need a system better than what we have. Or a modification of the current system to make it a bit tougher for people to use someone else’s credit. I have a few ideas but they would only work for those of us who can handle the idea of ssh keys, crypto, etc. The average idiot isn’t going to be able to keep easy access to the data they need to prove they are who they say they are. And I’m definitely against going with DNA, fingerprints, facial rec, etc because of where that leads.

As it stands, way more kids than you may expect grow up to find their credit completely fucked because their parents are assholes. Anyone close enough to you can probably answer most of the questions about where you lived, what car you owned, etc. We need a drastically different system if we want to minimize identity theft but as I said above, the average person can’t handle the ways to do it right.

In theory it could be based on cryptos open ledger but with encryption instead of being open to the public, accessible only when the person holding the private key unlocks it in conjunction with the public key. Data stored and accessed in a DB that can be hosted anywhere and isn’t under the control of any one organization or agency.


Something like a ssh key or what they are now calling passkeys could work. The question is then who holds the verification database and how do individuals (especially those who can’t turn on their pc) keep their part of the key safe and do we also have some other kind of verification questions like we do now to make sure that it’s the right person when so many small details are shared or similar across people.





If anyone reading this has an account with discover, they offer a similar service for free. If you don’t have a discover account, create one.


You aren’t OP and again your assuming and infantilizing. Remember that it’s those over 50, 60, etc that brought us the tech that evolved into what we are using now.

As for the spotting scams, fakes, etc, that not an age thing, that is something you have to be taught and learn from experience. There are 20 year olds who fall for the crypto spam and websites. This is why I suggest using noscript, ublock origin and maybe even a vpn that also blocks this shit. Though with the script blockers people need to be taught how to tell which domain is probably safe to enable. I sometimes have to go through and allow certain ones until the site works well enough to be usable.

For the record. I’m soon to be 43 and my wife is soon to be 54. My wife is less tech savvy than me but is definitely not an easy mark for scams and definitely knows more about computers than some people younger than her.


Your making an assumption and your infantilizing someone you’ve never met. It’s entirely possible that she is old enough that even if she did have the ability to discern this stuff that she’s more likely to fall for shit, but it’s also possible that she can learn how to spot stuff and avoid it. It’s been awhile since I have played with Linux, is it really ready for prime time? Especially if someone had spent decades using windows?


You aren’t missing anything. You can’t delete them yourself, but, you can pause them. For now, for me, the pause works just as well because if/when any of my email addys starts getting ridiculous spam I’ll just pause it. I run a business off one of my accounts and I don’t want any of the emails I’ve handed out to not reach me so I am fine nit being able to delete (for now). I’ve just been extra careful to choose addresses that I don’t feel a need to delete.


It’s not about forcing anyone to be anonymous. I’m not OP here but I kind of agree. Maybe signal should default to a randomized one with a blurb about safety, anonymity, etc but let you create your own if you want.

Again. My personal view isn’t to force random usernames on people but to maybe educate them on this stuff. Also, there are legit reasons why you should have non identifying usernames even if it’s not how the world should work. There are enough nutters out there who may recognize something in someones name that links them to someone they know offline and people are nucking futz. I can tell you stories I’ve heard from my clients that you would believe but don’t want to.

Oh and for the numbers, that can be even more identifying because people tend to use numbers that mean something to them. I have a variation on this name that includes my birth year in 2 digits. If I was posting things online that close family might have a problem with, it wouldn’t be hard to do to the math and identify me that way.


Iirc from the last time this article or similar was posted, it’s about how warrants are issued. It’s the username versus phone number not username versus or and/or other data points. Anything more than that I am still unclear about.


Probably because some people tend to pick user names that identify them in some way. Take me for example, I have a few names I go by but this username is definitely helpful in identifying me. I use it on the other place, a couple of emails, discord, telegram, etc. I don’t feel the need to be as anon as possible (no shade on those who do) so I main this one. I have a few others that I have been known to use and those are mainly for things that I don’t want easily connected back to me.


Oh contrare mon frare. They are extremely easy to avoid if you have any common sense. Don’t download and run just any old exe, use script blockers on browsers, etc. I used to run avast and malware bytes, etc but for at least a few years now windows built in protection has been enough.

If OP is asking these questions it means they are probably capable of getting her setup with a system that is a bit cleaner and stays clean assuming she doesn’t start downloading random weird porn shit or something.


They aren’t actually that dangerous. You can always reinstall any thing you need. Plus you can create your own assuming OP is savvy enough.


This is the answer. If she is more comfortable with windows there are stripped down versions of 7 and 10, maybe even 11 that will have even less of the crap that msft throws in.


That isn’t a life time subscription. It’s a better version of the family plan. If you read the article/blog post you would have seen that they only offer lifetime plans for charity.

https://proton.me/support/proton-plans#proton-visionary


I’ve been using Proton for a few years now. I’m slowly moving everything over to them and when they offered the visionary plan again last year I jumped on it despite right now it only being my wife and I using it with a 3rd account as a family email.