Thank you for the correction. For Matrix encrypted messaging, does it depend on app/'program, or is it dependant on the instance?

XMPP is decentralized but it is not federated.

XMPP is decentralized but XMPP has never been federated. I’m a fan of OMEMO but it’s decentralized.

Anybody looking for privacy from a federated service will never find it. It seems SimpleX is implementing more decentralized capabilties and it has superior privacy over anything else.

While Signal is the gold standard, it is not at all the best app or service for privacy.

Can anyone name a federated service that has built-in encrypted messaging enabled for privacy?

I view the repeated reply of “start your own server” as a cop out to not address what is fundimentally broken about a service, plus it doesn’t acknowedge that starting a new instance requires taking on a daily obligation of attending and checking that the service is running and immediately addressing in as short time as possible.

Look at the rules of a instance that focuses on a particular topic or industry, they still have rules for public postings or acceptable speech.

Since Mastodon has the capabilty to ban IP addresses and for one instance to ban another instance from communicating with it, that’s using a deny-all rule due to specfic individuals, so everybody on the internet who uses one server do not exist online for people on another server.

One of the main or even first rules for a lot of Mastodon is nobody is allowed say anything bad about tansgender or homosexuality an will result in account delete or ban, that much censorship is a cult.

Not allowed to criticize vaccines. I’m not talking about messaging individual users, simply a public posting criticizing trans ideology or injections, banned.

If someone reads the rules across a long list of Mastodon instances, a picture becomes clear about conformity to acceptable speech. Functional healthy adults are mature enough to ignore it or they themself choose to ban a user from messaging them, not an admin who had no part in a conversation. If one person creates multiple account and targets individuals, then yes the admin gets involed.

To prove my point, do a search for a Mastodon instance that allows obnoxious or unpleasant statements, that is still allowed to communicate with more populated instances.

You lying to yourself or have unfounded expectations. Everything on Mastodon is in plain text, there is no encryption, and servers get mirrored. It’s only the login info that stays with the instance, and they all say that each instance server keeps logs for a year.

It has never been any priacy at all. The entire point of why Mastodon was ever started was censor evertbody that has the wrong opinion. Twitter wouldn’t delete people because of what they believe, so Mastodon was developed to ban IP address so only approved speech could exist on the internet as far as they are concerned and can avoid ackniwledging the real world. A high number of people on there, especially the admins, live in cult

I’m planning to watch it and ask a question.

This might be of interest to you https://mastodon.social/@simplex/110776953058906725

I think my dislike comes from the hype about Matrix being federated so people think it’s safe, the fact that a company owns the matrix protocol, seeing the various apos that have non-free dependencies, when I looked before it seemed alk personal Matrix history is permanent, it seemed to be a combination of not the freedom people think it is and no clear sense of what the purpose of matrix is for, but don’t now that I had an account previously to validate all of that.

If you want, we could talk on matrix but we both post our ID’s here publicly to make sure it matches who we message on there?

I’m registered with FluffyChat, it seems fine.

I wish Mastodon had encrypted DM’s. I’ve been focusing on using Mostodon as my main place for media.

I can’t find a Matrix client in F-Droid to use because when I turn off all of the anti-features, it seems Matrix is not an option to install something.

Have you not tried SimpleX yet? If not, I would suggest when the new release for 5.2 is in F-Droid you should install it. I could give you an invite link to message there but I don’t want others on here using the link.

Let them stick with Molly/Signal, that will give them a lot of privacy, and nothing for them to figure out how to use.

Leave SimpleX for people more skilled to handle how to do configurations. SimpleX does have superior privacy over Signal, but mabe they can’t do SimpleX. Take it in stages with what they can handle, don’t jump to the end.

I’m not willing to Matrix and I don’t recommend anyone use it if they wat privacy and anonymity. I’m content only using Molly and SimpleX with everybody I know and no other apps or messaging services.

In SimpleX app settings, if you have already set a database passphrase, you can do a data backup or export to a file, when SimpleX is installed again, you import database.

I gave up Briar for SimpleX, as really good as Briar is, because of only having one ID. On SimpleX, if you enable incognito, it will create a new random ID for each new contact that you message, so no 2 persons will see the same ID for you, they each see you as a different name.

Also SimpleX is on iOS and Android, Briar is only for Android, and SimpleX does calling with contacts.

Do you know about SimpleX?

@Nimbus @SteleTrovilo

Do a search online of Telegram turning over user to government, they store your contacts and info.

For absolute privacy and security, stick with SimpleX for creating a different random ID for each contact you message, no 2 users will see the same ID from you.

As a secondary option, use Molly which is a modified version of Signal to remove proprietary dependancies.

That is a run off, complete your sentence.

There are ways around it if you are willing to put in the work and deal with incoveniences.

For example, never use native Android or iOS, flash a custom ROM, never install proprietary apps, just that cuts a lot out. Only use cash for all stores and services, never carry payment cards with you, that wipes out financial tracking. Never give real info to stores. Use email aliases so different people have a different address. Don’t use Windows on computer if the prgrams you use are not exclusive to Windows.

Those can be the beginner steps to how to be almost invisible in society. One thing I’ve done is try to push people onto SimpleX chat app for messaging so I can have a different random ID with each person I message so there’s no contact info to share. Even people I know in person, we hang out together, I try to get them on SimpleX in place of Signal.

Have a look at Autistici which includes free alias addresses.

Use IceCat browser plus do some about:config changes.

I’m a big fan of the concept of Obtainum, but to insure anonymity with apps, Obtainum is not an option due to not knowing if apps use GCM or Firebase, that’s why F-Droid is safer because of removing any dependencies or not allowing an app like native Signal, because of it’s dependencies, that’s why I suggested Molly app as a safer modified version of Signal.

How does s person install that from F-Droid? Molly has an F-Doid repository.

I enjoy Session, I like what the network is trying to focus on. I gave Session due to having concerns from a libre software perspective.

I stick more with open source software and stay away from libre software, but given the kind privacy infustructure that Lokinet is trying to build, if the server/network should be under AGPLv3+ and Session shold be GPLv3 to help keep the network pure open source.

I gave up Session for SimpleX

If someone wants to use Sigbal without Google dependancies, have a look at Molly.

Does anybody know what’s happening about Signal creating usernames to add people instead of numbers?

Specify who you are referancing.

Always carry extra cash everyday to pay at stores, never have debit/credit card in wallet unless it’s to withdraw more cash, never give stores your number or name to buy or reurn something, do not give legitimate info to register for a free store card, never register for a tap pay service on cellphone, buy a pre-paid credit card if you can buy it anonymously with cash, for Americans, use privacy.com for card masking.

If you exclusively use physical cash with change at stores and never give a name, there’s no behaviour prediction to get from you or how to advertise to you. Online purchases are not as good for data mining and tracking because there’s no geo location like paying with a card at a store that can be used to track your movements and at what time you were there.

Yeah, it’s quie a goid app, I’ve also used Briar’s bluetooth messaging, it works real well. I gave it up for SimpleX now since SimpleX can have a dfferent ID for each person I message.

Only if the Fairphone hardware is built with hardware standards complience and no proprietary setup.

For flashing Galaxy you have to check each individual ROM if it supports Samsung. The security ones do not.

Are you being serious? You’re not mocking what I was saying?

I really want to like Searx but it’s not helpful.

Oh, I was not aware of that.

Until de-Googled phones are sold at local stores, I will only tell people to buy a Pixel and flash it for better hardware security and every kind of custom ROM runs on Pixel.

Buy a Pixel phone and flash CalyxOS or GrapheneOS.

Brave search because it is their search company that finds new ways to make users more anonymus, Brave is not a middle man for another company.

I don’t recommend because they force users to verify when searching if Startpage detects a VPN or Tor.

Some will say SearX, a self hosted search engine, the issue with SearX is the search results can be irrelevent or something random. I support it but I don’t use it due to not consistently being relevent to my search or not informative.

Running an antivirus on Linux only addresses a psychosomatic issue, it is of no benefit and produces zero positive results.

I can’t find the community to join it.

If you are going to be all about privacy, it would be better to post the PeerTube link.

I took what you said as honest discourse and dialogue. Maybe the slightest tone of being harsh, but I took what you said as nothing more than an knowledgable rebuttal, not criticism. Seriously, all is well, and I’m completely open to every point you rebutted me on. I sensed no mockery or hostility from you, only solid counter points.

I get ya, and thank you for thoroughly articulating, I enjoy the discussion. And that’s all I was looking for, a discussion, and not kick off a grand conspiracy.