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There is no need for it. Sorry. Certainly not government mandated, which is the worst part.

YOU have no need of it. You’re projecting your experiences onto everyone else. Maybe you’re content only hanging out in limited forums where you have to know someone to join. And those forums can continue to operate without any human verification. If you don’t care whether the spaces you occupy are infested with bots, or can manage with white lists, fine. But most people don’t want to talk to bots. Not everyone has the social connections you do.

I don’t support mandating ID for anything. But you are not the only person in the world. Just because you have no need of it, doesn’t mean no one does. Not everyone uses the internet the same way you do.

“Only join forums where you personally know the people there” is not a scalable solution to this problem.

Respect a diversity of viewpoints and experiences. Your way is not the only way.


There is a clear need for it. There’s value in having online discussion spaces that aren’t just swamped with bots. We really need a reliable way of telling human from bot. I want to find a way to do that preserves privacy to the greatest degree possible.

Do you have any constructive criticism to offer? Maybe a suggested improvement, or an alternative way to accomplish the same goal? What’s your solution to separate human from bot?


I have a solution to the age verification problem. There is a way to affirmatively prove someone is a real human adult without invasions of privacy. We can use the same ID verification system we’ve been using for centuries: public notaries.

Governments could hand anonymous cryptographic tokens to notaries. These contain no information on the individual. They’re simply a unique cryptographic token. You can go to a notary, pay a nominal fee, show your ID, and grab one of the tokens (possibly just a code printed on a card) from a large bin of them. You can then use this token to register for any number of sites. The notary themselves does not need to note which cryptographic token you grab. The notary doesn’t even know what token you received. The goal is merely to prove you’re an adult human, not to create a cryptographic key tied to your specific identity.

I would then let people do this as many times as they want. You can get a hundred such IDs. They wouldn’t cost much, a few dollar or Euros. This would be no barrier to individuals accessing the net, but it would make them unsuitable for mass spamming.