The lie made into the rule of the world - Ezekiel 23:20
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How does one “follow the tokens” then?
We don’t know what they do with the information, as it’s closed source.
Assuming it’s based on this EU prototype:
They don’t know why it was requested, but do know who, where and when.
So they gather the logs of A, the token provider. Is the target present? They have his token. They also see where and when the token was used. Did you have a fun time yesterday evening, on your phone at home, on websites B, C and D?
Next up, if they want even more detail, gather the logs of B, look for the token. That way they can pinpoint the exact search terms, categories, watch time, etc
In summary: centralizing the de-anonymisation this way makes mass surveillance easier than if it were decentralized, in sometimes foreign jurisdictions.
It also shifts the conversation away from the best solution: don’t deanonymise in the first place.
Yes. Anyone that can request both the logs of this third party and the website fully deanonymises the users.
Who could have this access? The same people that last minute added this amendment to unrelated legislation. It’s even easier this way: they have to strongarm only a few “age verification providers”, then follow the tokens.
Additionally, the amendment is a stepping stone to outlaw other privacy techniques such as VPNs.
Foreign websites still don’t comply? We have no choice but to build the great firewall of EU. For the children.
I think the overarching theme is that the EU wants more and more power and control.
In the case you describe: it’s by taking away freedom from software providers. In the case of this law, it’s by taking away freedom from their citizens.
Less agency and freedom for others, more control for and subjugation to them, is what motivates both - Fun when they do it to others, less fun now they’re doing it to you too.
Especially considering the backhanded way this amendmend was last-minute shoehorned onto unrelated legislation. They know it’s against general will and good.
“Do you want children to be exploited? No? Then do as I say”
In 2023 I was thinking how stupid puritan the Texan politician were. The EU commission and parliament had different ideas.
Turns out the incumbents in EU are very scared as politicians from outside the traditional political families are getting popular votes. And instead of looking into to mirror as to why that is happening, they blame “the internet” and go authoritarian.
Thus joining in the creation of the machinery for mass surveillance and supression.
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You shouldn’t assume what I think, especially when you are wrong.
If it walk like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Perhaps you should engage in some soul seeking :(
What you propose is an alliance where countries maintain their differences, essentially the dissolution of the EU and the return to the Europe
Again, there’s more ways to interact with others than (a) everyone is dictated top down vs (b) dog eat dog.
What I propose is voluntary democratic cooperation. An improvement upon the current structure with more respect for everyone.
“In Russia they’re doing it too” is to me insufficient motivation to lessen our democratic basis and individual freedoms.
I’m afraid that you don’t understand how the executive power works.
How it should work is a legislative branch to propose laws, a parliament to vote on it, an executive to implement it. The bastardization of the process by the EU is that the executive initiates legislation, and isn’t directly elected.
That’s why they can repeatedly propose the same unpopular law, without any fear of losing power.
It’s a nice idea on paper, but I doubt that it would work. The truth is that the vast majority of people fail to understand the basic functioning of the institutions
People who dislike democracy tend to like the EU indeed. I don’t think it’s a different discussion. I think it’s the philosophical core of this issue.
I feel like you and I are in completely different camps in that regard, as you feel the basis of society should be hierarchical and control. This explains why some appreciate less judiciary oversight on government, less freedom for individuals.
Others think the basis of society should be cooperation, appreciation of individuals, freedom both for and from others.
For the people who prefer domination and control I can only advise empathy. It won’t be you who controls others. So try to feel what it’s like to not be regarded as a person that deserves freedom and agency. People are more than an entry in a database.
The EU Commission is the executive branch and it’s approved by the parliament. You should check the basics.
Exactly, it should be the executive branch! It makes no sense that the executive branch proposes laws! And it makes no sense that a law-making part of government is not up for election. This is one of the least democratic institutes that dares to call itself a democracy.
Most legislation needs to be proposed by the European Commission and approved by the Council of the European Union and European Parliament to become law (1)
You basically say that we should stop producing knives because someone could use them against people.
Where the analogy doesn’t work is that knives already exist. A better analogy would be: don’t build novel weapons of mass destruction that are pointed at your own populace.
why in a union the location of a person or a company should have any influence on how the law operates.
Brings us back to our core philosophical difference: cooperation vs subjugation. A union, to me, is cooperative with everyone’s boundaries respected. A union to you is top down dictating who does what.
It was supposed to be an alliance to prevent further wars in Europe
That’s weird, as the precursors “European coal and steel community”, “european economic community” are clearly economic alliances.
You missed something.
So did you (1)
Historically cross-border investigations
The answer should not be to bypass judicial prudence. Yet that’s what they’ve chosen.
And that’s but one example. The insistence of the unelected EU commission to again and again put chatcontrol for a vote, despite it being unpopular, is another example.
The CRA act is another: basically killing independen softwarw development.
although you are probably overestimating
I think you probably grew up in western EU? Those of us that did live under a autoritarian regime, in my case DDR, know the lenghts they will go to to supress people who’s thoughts they deem bad.
One of the things that’s most difficult to communicate is this: all the freedom surpressing tools that are being build today, which you believe will be used solely against “the bad people”, will be used against you. For your own good.
What the EU needs is more direct democracy, not the charade that is parliament/commission, but sadly it’s going in the opposite direction.
National sovereignty is in contrast with the concept of an EU Union. The EU had been constantly eliminating barriers and differences for the past few decades
It was supposed to be a trade union. But like any group in power, they want more and more?
It’s weird that things related to trade, like unifying the train network, isn’t happening. But they do spend a lot of time and effort meddling with people’s private life.
Do you believe that EU goverment respect right to privacy and national souvereginity as a fundamental right?
I think the incumbents in EU commission are very scared as politicians from outside the traditional political families are getting popular votes. And instead of looking into to mirror as to why that is happening, they blame “the internet” and go authoritarian.
Thus creating the machinery for mass surveillance and supression.
Instead of, or in addition to, DNS filtering is also an easy technique (1)
Making laws with the intent they will be broken is different from having an understanding they will be broken.
The consequences are the same, even if intent differs: those breaking the rules, in this case not giving personal information to a 3rd party, in the other example speeding, are criminals.
If someone hits you because they love your, or they hit you because they hate you, either case you’ve been hit.
Something like tinc? (1)
Yet theyre not a surveillance state to the same extend as the EU. So overall better I think.