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For lithium batteries (phone batteries) it’s actually more important than draining to 0. Many studies indicate that the average phone battery should last several thousand cycles while only losing 5-10% of total capacity provided it is never charged above 80%. Minimum % (even down to 0%) and charge rate below 70% is also unrestricted.

The tl;dr is that everytime you charge to 100% is the same as 50-100 charges to 80%. Draining a lithium chemistry battery to 0 isn’t an issue as long as you don’t leave it in a discharged state (immediately charging).


But that doesn’t have anything to do with what I said?

You haven’t addressed any of them? How does the fact that servers can be spun up in different countries affect those countries ability to inject backdoors into servers hosted in their country? When did I ever say block or remove communities? How does restricted legal access to third party clients like element confound the situation?

It’s like you have some strawman argument setup and you are shouting at the void…

Literally nothing you have posted on this thread is relevant to what I have posted.


I don’t know what you are arguing. You are talking about things I haven’t said or claimed… And you refuse to address the points I do bring up.

What’s the point in talking to you if you arent going to participate?


In context, disambiguating “matrix” the protocol, “matrix.org” the server and “element” the application obviously implies that “matrix.org” is not being referred to as the domain name.

Matrix.org” in this case should be abstracted to mean the service as a whole providing the matrix.org website, matrix protocol endpoints, hosting solutions, business and other accoutrements.

The original question was in relation to signal vs matrix. “Signal” in this context refers to more than just the dns entry, business, protocol, frontend application or other elements. It should be obvious that referring to “Signal” implies all of these elements. Which is where my reply comes into effect.

You made the mistake of mistaking the organization (and all related services) of “element” and “matrix.org” and the matrix protocol. These are not the same thing. In the context of using the name of the thing to refer to the organization, servers and other errata; “Element” refers to a single independent organization and application that provides a single implementation of a client side portion of the matrix protocol. “Matrix.org” is a separate, independent organization that is providing a server implementation of the matrix protocol.

Your guess that “matrix” and “element” are interchangeable in the original article is incorrect. “Matrix.org” is a separate organization from “element”.

From this point of view, coming back with the statement “matrix.org is a domain name” is frankly insulting.


This is a poor take and ignores the proper level of abstraction when discussing the situation.


And the Japanese government can force a backdoor into a server hosted in Japan. I don’t know what your point is or how it differs from what I said.

Governments can absolutely force backdoors into individual servers. The point you are making about the UK is true for any matrix servers hosted in or by a UK entity. It’s not isolated to Signal. It’s debatable if matrix clients will be legal to distribute in the UK after their law goes into effect.


It’s wrong to say matrix is only the protocol.

Matrix.org is the server that element defaults to and the vast majority of people use.

It is true that element hasn’t had a security audit, but the matrix.org servers have.

The protocol is separate from the server.



There are several different questions here that run the gamut of security related questions, not just privacy.

If you want a lay persons answer, the gist of it is both are secure enough for the vast majority of situations. If you don’t have nation states after you, use what is most convenient for your primary use case.

If you are worried about nation states… You need to do your own technical analysis, and if you are incapable of doing so… You should not be trusting random idiots on the web.

That said… The biggest difference is that signal is more secure by default, forcing end to end encryption on all communications but you have to trust a closed source private organization. Arguable the signal protocol is probably provably more secure with perfect forward secrecy (the double ratchet algorithm is legit).

Matrix has a significantly larger public surface area for non nation state level actors to observe and Messaging is arguably slower… But you have much more freedom with how much trust you give entities. Unfortunately, more of the security is up to you and your contacts which makes it less secure. (We on average are terrible at security). Matrix is probably also more resilient as a network.

Finally, Signal does not provide any anonymity whatsoever. I’m fact, it directly ties your messaging to other highly personal information. (But nobody other than you and the other participants can read any of the messages). Provide you know your contacts in real life, you can prove message authorship (you know for a fact that the message was written on their device and nobody other than the intended recipients read it).

Matrix does provide anonymous access. If this is something you need… This is the answer.