I’m not sure why you think any digital device shouldn’t know what time it is. It’s not leaking any kind of personal information, just literal facts about reality.

My challenge isn’t about NTP but about printer shouldn’t be able to communicate with the internet, as it has no need for it.

You said: It’s common.

Okay, cool. So is cancer.

does not need to be able to talk to the internet at all, just to your router (or designated NTP server if you’re into that)

Exactly! So why allow the printer to go past it!

Me: please explain what kinds of timing attacks can affect a printer and what are the consequences, because I can’t think of any

You: Timing attacks. They are old. They are bad. Therefore printer needs to be protected from them.

I don’t think you answered my question.

Anything that connects to the network needs a synchronized clock with other devices it directly communicates with in order to make sure it’s not being subjected to timing attacks

Please explain what kind of timing attacks because what you wrote doesn’t make sense in the context of a damn printer.

Server? Sure. Printer? Why can it even access public internet?

Printer isn’t responsible for timestamps on your document. If that would be regarding tracking dots, then block it anyway, right? And if it’s a 3d printer then it still doesn’t need to have correct synchronized time, it only needs to be able to count how the time passes.

Again, what would a printer need a clock for?

Why would a printer need time? The only think that cames to mind is freezing cartridges after x months.

Are you telling that to someone on a .ml instance?

Huh. :P

(This is of course a joke)

FOSS to thrive needs people who can afford to spend time and energy on it. With the recent enshittification of workers collective power, developers have less of both, and the trend is pessimistic.

Except that *Fox, *Fennec and *Wolf are downstream to Firefox, so if the main trunk goes shit, they will become outdated soon.

OK yeah but every major “news” channel is like this

That’s literally “whataboutism”.

Relevant Betty White skit:

https://youtu.be/fbI1eJ_zAB8

“Supremacist” might be a better word

Cool cool cool.

My go to test is to search for water shoes / swimming shoes that are either size EU 48 or extra wide.

This shiet can’t even find only “water shoes”, instead recommending shoes to me.

Seems to be useless trash-proxy to Bing and Google?

Um… I’ve read the document, where does it say anything nefarious? All I can see is unifying requirements for metadata storage and time to live?

As in - to what exactly should I object, where’s the hidden poison?

Restart your phone, so if it’s malware it will be able to hide. Yesh, makesh shenshe.

Close but no cigar. It’s also about collecting as little data as possible. Company can be sued or fined if a data collection is deemed excessive.

Isn’t it a bit… selfish for you to expect everyone everywhere know your fucking context? 88 means shit nothing in Europe and we’ve got the original Nazis here (except of course if you’re Nazi - they know about 88, common people don’t).

Same with 666. Ask an Indian what it means and he will tell you one more than 665.

I think this is the moment you’re overreaching.

Alternatively what you’re saying is that all gun manufacturers should go to jail for multiple counts of homicide.