haha, now do openai

a great piece and the related paper is also a cracking read: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 (linked in the piece also)

*two hours (now)

Bing powers so much of the alternative (meta)sphere

Correct; there are many such cases, this map shows a bundle of bing proxies

harm google

what is the problem?

sir this is not x dot com

“hello i am u/NotBillGates and I agree with this message”

Blink and it’s GONE

*or Bing depending upon where you are

the the quick answer type stuff is coming from DDGs systems.

which doesn’t an index make, more like a fetcher for specific data

nope, it was yandex + bing, now bing: https://www.searchenginemap.com/

qwant and ecosia are both using bing, with the latter using google sometimes: https://www.searchenginemap.com/ map needs updating for that latter point

indeed so, thanks for flagging this I’ll get it raised so we can see what’s going on there

probably a sample size issue, we crawl and index everything we are able to; have seen many of this kind of site in the past, and finding them is something that other people have said they enjoy about mojeek

our preference is always to find out why the block is happening and try to convince people it should be otherwise; widespread abuse of robots.txt does no-one any good, having been crawling and indexing for so long it’s a standard that we understand and are quite fond of

we can see some of the perils and pitfalls of it too, but web builders need to be given some tools and assurances that those tools will work for them

IP already hits a wall, also better to not get a reputation as a bad bot, it’s taken a while to get known for being friendly and respecting rules, to us you should follow robots

We make money from our API, what they’re referencing is a beta ads programme which was running

Agree to disagree here, but I’ll refer to Cory Doctorow for a contextual vs behavioral/tracking ads comparison, one which is very good: https://pluralistic.net/2020/08/05/behavioral-v-contextual/#contextual-ads (applied to the media, but the general thread is relevant)

which language are we talking?

Reddit doesn’t allow us to crawl: https://www.reddit.com/robots.txt

not sure what’s happening there for you, speed is one of the things which people frequently say we do well for

qwant is bing, mainly

we make money mainly from our api, our investors are patient private capital and we don’t take vc, appreciate your point but these are fundamentally different situations, our ads (when they run) will also be contextual so more of a ddg situation than a “makes users into products to be sold to advertisers”

fair enough if it’s not for you though

The Express? There’s definitely a not-reading-it option

forks of firefox still keeping things going such as mullvad browser, waterfox, librewolf

Thanks a lot; these have been raised.

I think Mojeek is probably the only search engine that listens this much to user feedback. Is there a Lemmy community or something similar where one kann submit queries like these?

We have a Discourse: https://community.mojeek.com/ but also take these direct from search results pages (there’s a Submit feedback button) or via https://www.mojeek.com/about/contact. It’s all super useful for us so thanks in advance.

Mojeek also displays significantly more individual entries in its search results than Google or Bing

Ah, yeah, that’s from a blogger called Jack Yan who writes a lot on how many results you can actually get out of results 1-10 from n. What he’s saying there, which is correct on checking, is that we will always display 1,000 results when we have them, whereas Google and Bing tend to either stop when you get somewhere in the 200/300s, or just repeat results.

Thanks a lot, I’ve raised the Kdenlive query. When it comes to searching for stuff with “yt-dlp” you mean there’s normally another phrase or words in the query? Do you have an example; understand the problem but just trying to raise it with as much of a solid example as possible 🙏

thanks for flagging this, will get it raised

Got any examples of searches you could do with seeing improvement on? A big part of our process is collecting these (as well as identifying issues in crawling off the back of them)

plz do not sue us

this comparison

the table you’ve cited is very out of date when it comes to us and other inclusions

being backed or debated at least by UK politicians

We came up in Hansard yonks ago 2011, mentioned by one MP

they do have individualized answers as well

I don’t quite follow but if you mean results are personalised can I ask where you got that information? One of our main things is that we don’t affect results based upon much more about you than country-level boosts

noone expected this

Search Engine Optimization Google Optimization

🙏

We’ll try and get that okay up to a good and then a great as time goes by! There’s a submit feedback button on results pages if you’d like to be a part of that.

looking at it it would seem to be getting results via the brave search api

or search engines with several engines, such as Mojeek or MetaGer

Just a flag, we don’t use several engines, all Mojeek is Mojeek, you might be conflating this with Search Choices. AstianGO seems to be inaccessible now, but it wasn’t an own-index search engine,

We’re always on the lookout for feedback so if you use us again or are willing to send in the searches then it really helps us improve, the Eval Page is also worth mentioning for sending us these in a more interactive way. There’s a new testing algo up there currently.