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Mobile payments, better UI, all apps working without Google play services… those are the needed things, but they won’t happen anytime soon



I believe if it was worth it to mine, everyone would do it until it is not anymore, especially in countries where electricity is extra cheap

After testing on my machine, I ended up losing more than 10x the amount I paid in electricity in France. I’m not sure it’ll be better elsewhere. This was at 0.20€/kWh


20€ worth of XMR will still be more than 20€ worth of electricity. It ends up the same.


Additional notes:

The initial crypto should be a relatively famous one with low transaction fees so you don’t lose a lot in the process. The two I wrote are nice.

For swapping, the higher the amount, the lower the fee % will be. Always try trading over $20 to minimize fees.


This is the easiest way.

  • Use a centralized exchange (like Kraken, Binance…)
  • Buy LTC, BCH, anything you want
  • withdraw that
  • Swap (exchange) those through a swap service, from the crypto you bought, to XMR.
    • https://trocador.app/ is an exchange aggregator that’s privacy friendly and Monero friendly if you want. They don’t take any cut and you can get better margins this way.
  • Optional but I recommend it: churn your crypto by sending all of it to yourself multiple times, waiting a few days between each churn. Easier to do with Feather Wallet on desktop as it has coin control. This minimizes the links to your identity: Monero shines through multiple transactions, but tx to tx can statistically be liked. The more you do, the blurrier it gets.
    • On Feather Wallet (which is open source), there’s a “coins” tab where you can see each unit of crypto you have, and can “sweep output” to “yourself (churn)” easily.
  • Spend your XMR, have fun :)

Can’t say about the second like, but reto is quite known and trusted


I disagree with the first part, but apart from that, yea retoswap is reputable



Mining isn’t economically worth it and it’s also bad for your components’ health as well as the environment


Oh I agree and self host stuff as well. But I tried switching to GrapheneOS and I really can’t.



Why Microsoft and not Google?

Idk what’s Microsoft Authenticator. Can’t use another 2FA app?




But if you don’t play, your pay with convenience and your time. You lose the freedom of installing a lot of apps. You lose a lot :( - to the point where it would make most people give up


Being deported sucks, but it’s nowhere as bad as going to prison heh, but there sure is an increase of those shitty repressions all over the world currently


Those feelings are based on facts.

The great firewall, Hong Kong, censorship against other regimes and countries, Taiwan, social credit… fucking WeChat!?


Your comment only implied that it did not happen in China.

I still feel like it’s worse there. It happens everywhere sure, but not as much. Fuck their shitty firewall and fuck surveillance.

I’ll just stop here because we’re getting nowhere. You’re saying it happens everywhere, I agree, but feel like it happens more in China for example.


that feeling that you have regarding repression from countries like china is only a feeling; not reality.

Even though we have many instances where this happened? And people dissapeared in Hong Kong? Come on, you must be joking.


USA sucks as well. As far as I’m concerned, it is not a democratic country that supports freedom of speech and I’ll never go there.

USA is a bit similar to china on this subject


You’re taking the USA as an example, and we all know the current situation is really fucking bad and not comparable to other western countries.

Your “freedom” to “speech” and “democracy” are constrained within a clearly drawn boundary, the boundary of which is drawn by the ruling class.

Sure, it is, but my point is that it’s less restricted.

Notice how a Westerner does not risk anything by truly believing in and expressing things like “china censorship bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum and need to be wiped off the map these russian orcs need to be wiped off the planet”, but a non-Westerner risks absolutely everything by even slightly hinting at a criticism towards Western imperialism/wanting better conditions at the cost of the ruling class, perhaps even in their own damn fucking country

That’s just a massive lie. It doesn’t work this way, unless maybe you’re in a far-right wing country like the USA rn. I’m in France and we have a lot of far-left people, communists and stuff, none of them are in jail. Saying such things as “bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum and need to be wiped off the map these russian orcs need to be wiped off the planet” would clearly get you in trouble, especially the “bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum” because it can’t be argued that you were only talking about soldiers etc…

Any other country outside the West engaging in censorship is either a) a dog of the West or b) protecting itself from fully succumbing into being a dog of the West.

Yea sure, it’s only “you’re with, or against us”. No in-between. haha

I’ll just stop here because there’s no point in this discussion and I feel like I’m just talking to a tankie, member of lemmygrad and hexbear, that hopped on its alt account.


Sure, any censorship, spying and oppression is bad. I’m just saying one goes harder than the other, but I’m not denying that it sucks and that it clearly exists. I’m well aware of the patriot act and that speaking can endanger you. I just have this feeling like you get persecuted for speaking against the government in countries like China, whereas you need to be a strong figure to have the same fate in other countries. Anyways, it sucks for all countries that have this.

I have no data and this is just a feeling.

Democracy and freedom of speech, freedom to protest, freedom in general is in danger


Fuck all those spying countries. But yea still I believe in the west you get in trouble for acting, not just speaking