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I use Jami and love it. If you want to use it on a de-googled phone you may not get live notifications though, which is annoying if you want to use it for calls. The simplest solution is to allow it to run in the background but it also allows you to use selfhosted push notifications which is cool. I just let it run an accept the hit to to my phone’s battery. Jami is fairly easy to use and looks friendly too, which is helpful for getting non-technical friends to join you on it.

I struggled with Nextcloud Talk too.

Highly recommend Jami 👍


You can install/update Jami from their official repository. The instructions are a bit buried on their website but they’re there. I also avoid flatpak!



Hey, I came across this site today which sells FOSS merch (including stickers) and thought of you:

https://www.freewear.org



The usual stuff I guess; keeping minimal or no customer data, located in a country which isn’t participating in international surveillance agreements (Five Eyes et al), no wishywashy privacy policies etc.


Would peer to peer apps be resistant to this sort of thing?


Any recommendations for VPS?
Does anyone have experience with a good privacy-focussed VPS provider? What do you recommend? I've been using 1984 for quite a while and they have been solid but they have just put their prices up. It's still affordable but I thought it would be a good time to have another look at what else is out there.
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I want stickers too but have struggled to find the ones I want (FOSS software and privacy/digital rights organisations). I do have access to low-cost sticker printing though. I thought a nice setup would be to start an online shop selling these kinds of stickers and use to proceeds to cover the cost of printing + running the shop and to send money to the developers of the applications/organisations.


I haven’t been able to find a dedicated shop for this. Wanna start one?


Apparently there has been an uptick in people using cash in the UK because it helps with budgeting. Which has become more necessary since 60% of inflation started coming from corporate profiteering and four people became able to outcompete twenty million others in the market.


I think it’s really sad how people lose the plot and go and go on murderous rampages against ethnic/sexual/random/political minorities when insurers are sitting right there the whole time.


Google Pixel phones are, ironically, the best supported by de-googling projects like CalyxOS, GrapheneOS and /e/os. They are quite cheap to buy too (especially second hand).



I’m thinking of doing that with music.


Unless those instance owners have access to someone’s google account data then I’m guessing they have no more data on said user than any other website they visit.




how the algorithm influences what the creators do with their contents

Yes, that’s exactly what I meant. The impact of business and technology on culture.

I would much prefer to see content from something like peertube or from independent websites.


Sort of. If I’m not logged into google or they can’t monetise my data or serve me ads then I feel I have ‘de-googled’ from a privacy and convenience point of view. Nevertheless, if I’m still using what they are providing then I’m not doing anything to support or legitimise google’s competitors. I’m also still going to see the sort of content that is cultivated by youtube’s algorithms and business practices.

Third party apps are great though, especially if they can support multiple video hosting platforms and download videos to view offline. Newpipe is a good example of this. I can quickly go between my youtube subscriptions and my peertube ones.


It might be worth looking again at pay-as-you-go. Here in the UK at least, there are some ‘bundle’ plans that are not actually that much more expensive than a contract. Topping up with a voucher once a month is a bit inconvenient but not too bad. You

I don’t know to what extent the phone companies log and share your usage (if you’re in an English-speaking country it’s likely quite extensive) but I would imagine they could still identify you probabilistically by your patterns of use, including which towers you connect to. Using a VPN/proxy/TOR would at least limit the number of IP addresses they see you connecting to but that’s off topic a bit.


Minetest in creative mode with Radio Free Fedi’s comfy channel playing in the background 🤌



What would be the benefits of this over Nextcloud, apart from not having to set it up?


I just assume now that any content or data that I make available to a company will be exploited by them. So I don’t do it. It’s pretty sad to be honest. I want to keep things special and share with the people I know and love but I can’t do it without also sharing with others at the same time, who cheapen and abuse it. Intimacy, trust and shared experience as a core part of human life is being erased and I don’t think anyone is really even noticing it happen to them.




The difference with kids is that we don’t consider them to have the ability to properly consent or take responsibility for themselves because they haven’t fully developed yet. Hence no voting, drinking, driving, sex etc.


Confusing… I’m currently using openboard; does that mean I’m actually using heliboard?


There’s no signup involved for the apps we’re using - you just download them and share IDs with people (you can even choose to add only people who don’t have kids). Worth checking out:

getsession.org/

jami.net/


I can’t find this on f-droid for some reason…


Man that sounds really horrible. I’m sorry to hear your relatives were so unsupportive. I hope everyone gets along now.






Jami really needs to get talked about more. I think it’s great.



Yes, this exactly what has happened with one of my friends - after installing Session for the pics he is now messaging me on the app about unrelated stuff instead of using SMS in whatever his preinstalled iOS app is. Win!


Lol Grandpa is even more of a technogrouch than I am and won’t even have a phone! Grandma OTOH is already using jami on her gentoo installation.



Getting People Onto a Good Messaging App
Folks, I have finally figured it out. Have a baby. Since having a baby a week ago, all of a sudden everyone is willing to install a decent messaging app in order to receive pics of the baby. We explained that we weren't ready for images of our child to end up in the wrong hands via non-private apps. Another thing was telling them that the one single friend who had already got on board with this had already been recieving pics... It's been a conversation starter for many and I think seeing privacy from the point of view of a newborn has helped our family and friends understand it a bit more easily. Plus they've had to put up with it if they want any photos, so they will see it working firsthand. So, if you want to have a baby, know that it can be a wonderful opportunity to help loved ones communicate more privately. It also increases the sum total of love, community and compassion in the world and in your own life but that's a conversation for another community :) Edit: If anyone has good tips on how to share a little one's journey more privately with those that care about them, please post them in the discussion.
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