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Why would this be unexpected?

Proton already handed over the IP of a climate protester to authorities several years ago, while boasting that they had a no log policy.

https://therecord.media/protonmail-forced-to-collect-an-activists-ip-address-in-police-investigation

Every time, in the past few years, that I bring this up, everyone just acts like I’m setting an impossible standard and no alternative exists.

Proton has been shady for years.


Yep, I’ve been using Tuta for email for years now, just the free version.


Its one of the US’s three main social credit score companies, that determines your ability to rent or buy a home or car or get a job by selling your credit data to companies that perform background checks on you, background credit checks which you pay for.


Yeah.

OP suggests the ease of use for just using ProtonMail and ProtonVPN all bundled together.

Maybe don’t do that. Maybe use Proton VPN, but find a seperate and/or more secure email provider.

Tuta, Mailfence, StartMail are all comparably secure compared to ProtonMail.

Posteo is possibly more secure/safe from a legal subpoena in that they claim to not log IPs, and they claim they anonymize your account from your payment method… though I have not researched it enough to personally say yes they do this and it actually works to prevent the legal info request situation.

EDIT: Also, just to throw this in, another weird thing about IVPN is that they are actually legally based in Gibraltar, which puts it in a fairly weird legal situation where it does not appear to be totally clear how a legal request for data from them would actually be processed.